Mwright1712 Posted 7 February, 2021 Share Posted 7 February, 2021 4 minutes ago, Orzabot said: I can add to this that soon a another of his friends calls himself vondice will have his first stream on 21 feb, as far as i can see he has never streamed before, but he already has almost 20000 people follow him even before his first stream 😄 20000 prob be 30000 before the first one Link to comment
The Macho Man Posted 8 February, 2021 Share Posted 8 February, 2021 21 hours ago, Homer Spinson said: Ok I'll share my side of the story which makes me know he's using fake money. I don't need to ask around etc I can make up my own mind and it's comon sense a lot of it. Firstly when he started streaming he had a bio saying he was a college student. When people questioned how he can afford to gamble so high, and being a student made no sense, he changed his bio! Why? Because it did make no sense, how any student could be betting as high as he was and he also banned people for asking this. Why ban if there's nothing to hide?. That there was enough for me to confirm he's a fake and I know now he's obviously not a student anymore. Second bit of evidence is he's an actor. What I mean by that is he steals of a lot of his acts from Dr disrespect. For example, DrDisrespect had his house shot at during his live stream. What coincidence the this 'guy in a hat' shortly after DrDisrespect incident aslo has his have something done to it (sounded like a smashed window). He then acted the same way or at least tried to. He's a performer ladies and gentlemen. It's all an act, he even pretended to have a fake assistant just like DrDisrespect's 'Raul' and I've seen him copy other things. Thirdly, everyone with at least one brain cell can tell he has mostly bots in his stream. People say they can see people typing in the chat, well obviously, the bots are imitating other past human messages. He has also set up a friend doing a stream now and from day one the guy has 20k followers? Come on, he's using the same bots. Nobody gets 20k viewers first stream when they're not even known unless they're using bots. Lastly, I've seen clips of him messing up showing a fake balance not including a thousand other stories proving his using fake funds. Also to answer people who say he makes millions from affiliation, and the casino can afford it. Well don't you think he may own the casino or be a part of it? Not a single legit casino he's not involved in would take this guy on board to give him a bonus that risks them paying out a million euro and I'll stick by this until a legit casino states otherwise! Quote When people questioned how he can afford to gamble so high, and being a student made no sense, he changed his bio! Why? Because it did make no sense, how any student could be betting as high as he was and he also banned people for asking this. Why ban if there's nothing to hide?. That there was enough for me to confirm he's a fake and I know now he's obviously not a student anymore. This doesn't prove anything, and nobody ruled out the idea that he could of faked it early in his career because he couldn't afford those bets. But, unless you know a persons financial history there's no way of saying he couldn't afford those bets because he was a student. He could come from a wealthy family or he could of made a million dollars of bitcoin, point is who knows and jumping to a conclusion that he cant afford those bet sizes because he's a students is understandable, but not proof of anything. Quote Second bit of evidence is he's an actor. What I mean by that is he steals of a lot of his acts from Dr disrespect. For example, DrDisrespect had his house shot at during his live stream. What coincidence the this 'guy in a hat' shortly after DrDisrespect incident aslo has his have something done to it (sounded like a smashed window). He then acted the same way or at least tried to. He's a performer ladies and gentlemen. It's all an act, he even pretended to have a fake assistant just like DrDisrespect's 'Raul' and I've seen him copy other things. How is this proof of anything? He's an entertainer, he might get inspiration from other entertainers, there's nothing wrong with that and honestly I don't even see the comparison between him and DrDisrespect... Quote Thirdly, everyone with at least one brain cell can tell he has mostly bots in his stream. People say they can see people typing in the chat, well obviously, the bots are imitating other past human messages. He has also set up a friend doing a stream now and from day one the guy has 20k followers? Come on, he's using the same bots. Nobody gets 20k viewers first stream when they're not even known unless they're using bots. We talked about this before, there probably is some bots in his channel farming channel points for his giveaways (This is important and glad you brought up the second part). So is every single one of his viewers real? No, but you guys act like this guy has like 20k bots and 10k real viewers. Go sit in his chat right now and see how fast his chat moves and its in slow mode... Those are real viewers. Secondly he has nothing to gain from using bots, hes already the #1 slot streamer with 477k followers (even if you think most of them are botted) he doesn't need to bot his stream and he gains nothing for doing so. Botting is only really important if he wasn't the #1 streamer and was trying to get noticed among the competition. No point botting when you're already at the top. Thirdly you mention his friend Andrew, who he's brought on the stream for the past month now introducing him to his community. He's helping him setup his own slot stream and your big evidence is that the guy has 20k bot followers now... except if you go into Rosh's stream for more than 30 seconds you will know he is running a 5 year anniversary giveaway right now and in order to get entries into the giveaway one of the requirements is to follow all 3 channels, his, deuceace, and his friend Andrew... Guess how many entries their are? 17k right now... that means 17k people followed his friends new channel, and im guessing the other 3k are organic follows from him just being on the stream with Rosh and Jay... So once again this 'evidence' is nothing. Quote Lastly, I've seen clips of him messing up showing a fake balance not including a thousand other stories proving his using fake funds. Also to answer people who say he makes millions from affiliation, and the casino can afford it. Well don't you think he may own the casino or be a part of it? Not a single legit casino he's not involved in would take this guy on board to give him a bonus that risks them paying out a million euro and I'll stick by this until a legit casino states otherwise! He's debunked the fake balance clips multiple times but nobody cares to hear it. Secondly I doubt he owns any casinos, maybe thats his next goal but that takes tens of millions to run and operate. He's not quite at that level yet, but I'd say he's getting close. And he works with casinos that give him the best deals and pay him the most. Wouldn't you want to work with casinos that are willing to pay you what you're worth? He might not work with #1 casinos, but why would they want him if they are already #1? The casinos he works with know what hes worth to them and how much money he can generate for them which is why he works with them. Its no different than getting a celebrity brand deal to represent your casino... And I don't know why this keeps getting brought up, but SINCE WHEN IS 1 MILLION EURO some huge loss that a casino can't afford? If there's a casino out there that can't afford to pay out 1 million euro, then it's not a real casino. Believe or not... THERE ARE BIGGER GAMBLERS THAN ROSH OUT THERE... people who spend millions of dollars a day betting on these websites. All things considered Rosh probably wouldn't even be considered a top tier whale... I'm sorry but your 'evidence' was terrible and kind of embarrassing and reeks of those people who stick their head in the sand and don't want to believe anything that contradicts them... This is why he doesn't even bother to debunk people like you anymore. 21 hours ago, Orzabot said: I can add to this that soon a another of his friends calls himself vondice will have his first stream on 21 feb, as far as i can see he has never streamed before, but he already has almost 20000 people follow him even before his first stream 😄 Well if you watched the guy you would know he setup a giveaway for his 5 year anniversary and one of the requirements to join the giveaway is to follow his friends stream. There's already 17k entries.. that would explain the 20k followers plus 3k organic just from being on his stream... But people are quick to jump the gun and call bullshit when they don't have all the facts. Link to comment
dirtystack Posted 8 February, 2021 Share Posted 8 February, 2021 @The Macho Man Fact 1 - Rosh is fake. Fact 2 - WWF/WWE is fake. I blow the whistles. Link to comment
olempiaps Posted 8 February, 2021 Share Posted 8 February, 2021 I know a guy that punts away 300-500k euro every week on online casinos lol. He doesn’t stream. He is just a rich heir and have taken over a multi billion dollar company from his dad after he passed away. Compare that to rosh and he is a low stakes gambler. If he started streaming he would be called fake. Link to comment
vanHooff Posted 8 February, 2021 Share Posted 8 February, 2021 47 minutes ago, olempiaps said: I know a guy that punts away 300-500k euro every week on online casinos lol. He doesn’t stream. He is just a rich heir and have taken over a multi billion dollar company from his dad after he passed away. ^^ Nothing personal and I hate to be a dick but I call bullshit on this one because of how you phrased this. 1 hour ago, dirtystack said: @The Macho Man Fact 1 - Rosh is fake. Fact 2 - WWF/WWE is fake scripted. Macho Man is dead. I blow the whistles. Link to comment
desity2017 Posted 8 February, 2021 Share Posted 8 February, 2021 On 2/7/2021 at 01:28, siggy said: Talking about Stars i remember their $50k Dream race giveaway battle. Go to the 1hr 46min mark of this streamer battle and you'll hear the host (CEO of Casino Grounds) say if the streamers "run out of money we have organised that they will" Then an uncomfortable silence! https://www.twitch.tv/videos/758325910?filter=all&sort=time They had arranged deposit bonuses for the race! That's what he means by that 🤣 Link to comment
Ash W Posted 8 February, 2021 Share Posted 8 February, 2021 Everythings a conspiracy 🤣 Link to comment
olempiaps Posted 9 February, 2021 Share Posted 9 February, 2021 10 hours ago, vanHooff said: ^^ Nothing personal and I hate to be a dick but I call bullshit on this one because of how you phrased this. I guess we even have sentence «experts» in this forum working for the fbi that can call out fake sentences. Im so done lmao😂 Link to comment
The Macho Man Posted 10 February, 2021 Share Posted 10 February, 2021 3 hours ago, Homer Spinson said: @The Macho Man Didn't expect an intelligence response since your first post wasn't very good to begin with. Glad I could help change your mind about Rosh even if you won't admit it. Link to comment
Slotplayer Posted 10 February, 2021 Share Posted 10 February, 2021 How about less of the personal attacks, else it will only result in this topic being closed Link to comment
dirtystack Posted 10 February, 2021 Share Posted 10 February, 2021 On 08/02/2021 at 17:33, olempiaps said: I know a guy that punts away 300-500k euro every week on online casinos lol. He doesn’t stream. He is just a rich heir and have taken over a multi billion dollar company from his dad after he passed away. Sounds familiar, anyone remember the title? Link to comment
Mwright1712 Posted 10 February, 2021 Share Posted 10 February, 2021 2 hours ago, Slotplayer said: How about less of the personal attacks, else it will only result in this topic being closed Long overdue lol 🙂 Link to comment
Original Jase Posted 10 February, 2021 Share Posted 10 February, 2021 @The Macho Man the irony. That was me yawning at everything you've typed and anything anyone has to say about 'the guy in the hat' because it is tiring. You can believe what you want and I'll believe what I know. Also referring back to you saying his chat goes so fast so they can't be bots, well you clearly have no idea how bots work. You can programme them to type in a chat like humans....anyway stop tagging me. I'm done with this topic. You can believe fiction and I'll believe in facts 🙂 Link to comment
The Macho Man Posted 11 February, 2021 Share Posted 11 February, 2021 6 hours ago, Homer Spinson said: @The Macho Man the irony. That was me yawning at everything you've typed and anything anyone has to say about 'the guy in the hat' because it is tiring. You can believe what you want and I'll believe what I know. Also referring back to you saying his chat goes so fast so they can't be bots, well you clearly have no idea how bots work. You can programme them to type in a chat like humans....anyway stop tagging me. I'm done with this topic. You can believe fiction and I'll believe in facts 🙂 I know how bots work, I build them. You obviously don't know how common sense works. Those 'bots' seem to type relevant messages related to the stream non-stop. Rosh must have some script he follows everyday. Then again this guy is an actor to everyone so maybe he writes 1,500 pages of bot text each day and acts it out. Amazing, give this guy an Oscar. Link to comment
Slotplayer Posted 11 February, 2021 Share Posted 11 February, 2021 6 hours ago, The Macho Man said: I know how bots work, I build them. You obviously don't know how common sense works. Those 'bots' seem to type relevant messages related to the stream non-stop. Rosh must have some script he follows everyday. Then again this guy is an actor to everyone so maybe he writes 1,500 pages of bot text each day and acts it out. Amazing, give this guy an Oscar. Nothing to be proud of that you are able to build bots. They are the cancer of Twitch. Link to comment
Slotplayer Posted 12 February, 2021 Share Posted 12 February, 2021 So it has been posted elsewhere that a CG streamer had a withdrawal limit and was not allowed to cash out his full winnings. How is that different from "play money"? What is the point of "look at me.... I won £xxxx" when you in reality didn't win £xxxx? Link to comment
Mwright1712 Posted 12 February, 2021 Share Posted 12 February, 2021 2 hours ago, Slotplayer said: So it has been posted elsewhere that a CG streamer had a withdrawal limit and was not allowed to cash out his full winnings. How is that different from "play money"? What is the point of "look at me.... I won £xxxx" when you in reality didn't win £xxxx? Who was the streamer slotplayer? Link to comment
The Macho Man Posted 12 February, 2021 Share Posted 12 February, 2021 On 11/02/2021 at 02:19, Slotplayer said: Nothing to be proud of that you are able to build bots. They are the cancer of Twitch. Who said I build bots for twitch? 6 hours ago, Slotplayer said: So it has been posted elsewhere that a CG streamer had a withdrawal limit and was not allowed to cash out his full winnings. How is that different from "play money"? What is the point of "look at me.... I won £xxxx" when you in reality didn't win £xxxx? Do you not know what withdrawal limit means? It means you can cash it out but usually in increments set by the casino. For example if Rosh wanted to cash out his million dollars it would be done in 100k weekly withdrawal limits. ITS STILL REAL MONEY. The casino just has these limits to prevent big whales from potentially wrecking a casino overnight and they can't get the cashflow to pay everyone else out, But another big part of it is... you'll be tempted to play with those big winnings while waiting for the withdrawal limits each week. I'm not trying to be an asshole, but im going to sound like an asshole when I say this... Why does nobody know anything around here. You're a mod on a online casino forum with nearly 600 posts and you don't know what withdrawal limits are. Then I feel like I'm talking to people with 5th grade education levels about twitch and Rosh. Why does everyone come off like their brains are stuck on autospins. 🤬 Link to comment
Mwright1712 Posted 12 February, 2021 Share Posted 12 February, 2021 8 minutes ago, The Macho Man said: Who said I build bots for twitch? Do you not know what withdrawal limit means? It means you can cash it out but usually in increments set by the casino. For example if Rosh wanted to cash out his million dollars it would be done in 100k weekly withdrawal limits. ITS STILL REAL MONEY. The casino just has these limits to prevent big whales from potentially wrecking a casino overnight and they can't get the cashflow to pay everyone else out, But another big part of it is... you'll be tempted to play with those big winnings while waiting for the withdrawal limits each week. I'm not trying to be an asshole, but im going to sound like an asshole when I say this... Why does nobody know anything around here. You're a mod on a online casino forum with nearly 600 posts and you don't know what withdrawal limits are. Then I feel like I'm talking to people with 5th grade education levels about twitch and Rosh. Why does everyone come off like their brains are stuck on autospins. 🤬 He's actually talking about max cashout, not increments Link to comment
Slotplayer Posted 12 February, 2021 Share Posted 12 February, 2021 6 minutes ago, The Macho Man said: Who said I build bots for twitch? Then why comment on being able to build bots when Twitch bots were discussed. Maybe the bots you build are not as good as the Twitch bots hey. 7 minutes ago, The Macho Man said: Do you not know what withdrawal limit means? It means you can cash it out but usually in increments set by the casino. For example if Rosh wanted to cash out his million dollars it would be done in 100k weekly withdrawal limits. ITS STILL REAL MONEY. Yes I know what a withdrawal limit means. I mentioned that a CG streamer had a limit where he could not withdraw the full amount won. Full stop. I know exactly what withdrawal limits are thank you very much. No problem with that. But there is a problem that if I win say £100k but can only get paid £10k of it. And whilst we're at - why are you posting in such an aggressive style? Link to comment
The Macho Man Posted 12 February, 2021 Share Posted 12 February, 2021 2 minutes ago, Slotplayer said: Then why comment on being able to build bots when Twitch bots were discussed. Maybe the bots you build are not as good as the Twitch bots hey. Yes I know what a withdrawal limit means. I mentioned that a CG streamer had a limit where he could not withdraw the full amount won. Full stop. I know exactly what withdrawal limits are thank you very much. No problem with that. But there is a problem that if I win say £100k but can only get paid £10k of it. And whilst we're at - why are you posting in such an aggressive style? Because building message bots for things like twitch aren't hard and they aren't much different from any other kind of chat bots??? And what you're talking about is referred to Howie deals (you don't know about this either?) its usually a thing from roobet. Might be a thing on most casinos as well. The casino gives you REAL money to play with, but for example, there's a twitch guy named xposed. He gets basically 5k reloads from the casino. anything he cashes out he keeps 25%, 5% goes to his chat in giveaways, 70% goes back to the casino. It's real money, its just the casinos money and instead of paying him some kind of sponsorship money or giving him other deals, he takes the 'howie deals'. So basically he gets to play with someone else's money. A lot of people have a problem with this, but it is real money. I don't see a problem with it if the streamer lets the people know the deal. Hell its the best damn thing a streamer could ever want. Why risk your own money when you can risk the casinos money and take a % at the end of the day. Link to comment
vanHooff Posted 12 February, 2021 Share Posted 12 February, 2021 @The Macho Man I see some of your point but still you might want to consider your tone of posting. In my opinion Slotplayer is far from a bad poster or a bad mod, and is most certainly (too) civilized. 24 minutes ago, The Macho Man said: Why does nobody know anything around here. .. Why does everyone come off like their brains are stuck on autospins. 🤬 You'd be surprised about the knowledge of some of the posters around here. I know that there is at least 1 knowledgeable casino manager, a professional sports bettor, a couple of very sharp (aspiring) advantage gamblers.. Link to comment
Slotplayer Posted 12 February, 2021 Share Posted 12 February, 2021 6 minutes ago, The Macho Man said: Because building message bots for things like twitch aren't hard and they aren't much different from any other kind of chat bots??? And what you're talking about is referred to Howie deals (you don't know about this either?) its usually a thing from roobet. Might be a thing on most casinos as well. The casino gives you REAL money to play with, but for example, there's a twitch guy named xposed. He gets basically 5k reloads from the casino. anything he cashes out he keeps 25%, 5% goes to his chat in giveaways, 70% goes back to the casino. It's real money, its just the casinos money and instead of paying him some kind of sponsorship money or giving him other deals, he takes the 'howie deals'. So basically he gets to play with someone else's money. A lot of people have a problem with this, but it is real money. I don't see a problem with it if the streamer lets the people know the deal. Hell its the best damn thing a streamer could ever want. Why risk your own money when you can risk the casinos money and take a % at the end of the day. Yes I am familiar with Roobet and how their set up works with streamers. As you said, if "he gets to play with someone else's money" how is that not equal to play money. This is Casinorobot all over...... and we all know what happened to his streaming career once he was found out to be playing with somebody else's money. I rather watch streamers that play with their own money (with or without a deposit match bonus) that loses it all if it doesn't go right and keeps it all if they're lucky. Unfortunately, these days they are harder to find on Twitch et al Link to comment
Mwright1712 Posted 12 February, 2021 Share Posted 12 February, 2021 Just now, vanHooff said: @The Macho Man I see some of your point but still you might want to consider your tone of posting. In my opinion Slotplayer is far from a bad poster or a bad mod, and is most certainly (too) civilized. Should all be able to have our opinions in a friendly enuf way, oh and congrats vanHooff on your winnings in the comp the other day lol niceee one Link to comment
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