What is this all about ?? @Letsgiveitaspin @NickSlots

[The Macho Man]

1 minute ago, vanHooff said:

@The Macho Man I see some of your point but still you might want to consider your tone of posting.

In my opinion Slotplayer is far from a bad poster or a bad mod, and is most certainly (too) civilized.
 

Yea I understand. I apologize to slotplayer I have nothing against you or anyone. I just get frustrated like I'm sure anyone else would when trying to explain something to people who run around and say baseless nonsense, get fact checked, and pretend nothing happened and say something else dumb. Endless nonsense.

Not saying any of you guys do it, just some people here seem very uninformed about how anything works and then they run around and act like anything they say is based on fact when its just pure nonsense. 

 

 

7 minutes ago, Slotplayer said:

Yes I am familiar with Roobet and how their set up works with streamers.

As you said, if "he gets to play with someone else's money" how is that not equal to play money.

This is Casinorobot all over...... and we all know what happened to his streaming career once he was found out to be playing with somebody else's money.

I rather watch streamers that play with their own money (with or without a deposit match bonus) that loses it all if it doesn't go right and keeps it all if they're lucky.

Unfortunately, these days they are harder to find on Twitch et al

Yea id prefer it too, but xposed recent growth shows that people dont care and its all about entertainment at the end of the day... 

[Mwright1712]

15 minutes ago, The Macho Man said:

 

Yea id prefer it too, but xposed recent growth shows that people dont care and its all about entertainment at the end of the day... 

Does this mean CG will follow this recent growth trend and just go with the entertainment factor? People do care, every gambler likes to see the real reactions of the losses and the wins not just some acting.

[sugerlife]

This is what I think about the MAN in the HAT.

I might be in deep water, hopefully not to deep.
Hopefully I make myself clear.

@Slotplayer You might know if im swimming in deep water with the sharks.

In the past... (years ago) it was probably hard but not "impossible" for casinos to give a streamer unlimited bonuses.
A stream is often long, a lot of spins are done and the casino is paying providers a fee "each" spin.
The streamer just had to make the casino enough money to make it worth it.

Advertising their casino (get in players) and at the same time the streamer benefitting from people using a affiliation link.
It was a win/win for the casino and the streamer. Casino had a streamer getting players in and he had a playground to earn on affilation.

But when a streamer is sitting and doing 100-50euro spins for 8 hours everyday, it will cost the casino a lot of money.
Even if the casino gets 100 or 1000 new players every week because out of this streamer. It would be costly for the casino, even if the providers only took a 0,40€ fee for "each" 100€ spin being made.
8 hour streams or mabye even more thats a lot of spins and "fees" for the casino.

What seems common today is that casinos pay out a percentage (10-20+% of cashout) a "small" portion of the withdraw to the streamer.
The only reason this might be possible, is because nowdays the casino don't have to pay any "spin fee" to providers on these "streamer marketing accounts".

Casinos send requests out to slot providers. And it seems these casino requests to providers has increased significantly?
I don't even think casinos thought about it before. And providers probably diden't even see the big picture.

So is this even a thing and do providers accept the requests?
would the providers not lose out of money on this (lol)?
If this is a thing, is it even legal(I don't know)?

Providers having a streamer playing their slots doing huge bets with 100, 1000, 5000, 10000 or more of viewers.
Thats a lot of free advertising and of course more people will find and play those slots.
And seeing a streamer winning "sick money" on one of these slots... I think you understand what that will lead too.

So how are the accounts setup?
Im would assume the casino only really have to send requests out to providers. And then days/week later? they got a "streamer marketing account" setup.

Playing a slot with these accounts setup by the casino/providers works like any normal player account. The difference is that the provider don't charge any fees for spins that are done, since they are "streamer marketing accounts".
If the streamer wins 100,000€ on one of these accounts. Of course the casino wont pay that out, mabye some percentage or mabye nothing.
The accounts are just made and used like a tool for the streamer to keep on going.
Streamer can just keep on spinning and it costs the casino nothing, wich is great for them.

If you earn really good money from affilation, with accounts setup and no risk of losing "anything".
Why would you do a 360 and transition into playing with real funds. When you could just keep on doing your thing and earn good money.
In the end it's all about milking viewers, earning affilation money and try to keep viewers entertained, it's a job.

Mabye I wrote something like this at the beningenin, bedingdingening... beginning.
It's a highly successfull "collaboration", but nothing last forever, so milk it while it's still highly profitable.

BTW!
I remember the man in the hat won a huge amount of money on a slot, most been like 2 years ago.
You could see it was a real reaction when he won. It was not on n1 casino, im sure it was on Slottyvegas or QueenVegas.
Seeing him shocked, "his brain went blank", he is just staring and then a sudden headake hit him. So he called off the stream.
If you have won BIG money you might have had this happening.

But after that I don't think any "real reactions" has came out of him.

[Mwright1712]

9 minutes ago, sugerlife said:

This is what I think about the MAN in the HAT.

I might be in deep water, hopefully not to deep.
Hopefully I make myself clear.

@Slotplayer You might know if im swimming in deep water with the sharks.

In the past... (years ago) it was probably hard but not "impossible" for casinos to give a streamer unlimited bonuses.
A stream is often long, a lot of spins are done and the casino is paying providers a fee "each" spin.
The streamer just had to make the casino enough money to make it worth it.

Advertising their casino (get in players) and at the same time the streamer benefitting from people using a affiliation link.
It was a win/win for the casino and the streamer. Casino had a streamer getting players in and he had a playground to earn on affilation.

But when a streamer is sitting and doing 100-50euro spins for 8 hours everyday, it will cost the casino a lot of money.
Even if the casino gets 100 or 1000 new players every week because out of this streamer. It would be costly for the casino, even if the providers only took a 0,40€ fee for "each" 100€ spin being made.
8 hour streams or mabye even more thats a lot of spins and "fees" for the casino.

What seems common today is that casinos pay out a percentage (10-20+% of cashout) a "small" portion of the withdraw to the streamer.
The only reason this might be possible, is because nowdays the casino don't have to pay any "spin fee" to providers on these "streamer marketing accounts".

Casinos send requests out to slot providers. And it seems these casino requests to providers has increased significantly?
I don't even think casinos thought about it before. And providers probably diden't even see the big picture.

So is this even a thing and do providers accept the requests?
would the providers not lose out of money on this (lol)?
If this is a thing, is it even legal(I don't know)?

Providers having a streamer playing their slots doing huge bets with 100, 1000, 5000, 10000 or more of viewers.
Thats a lot of free advertising and of course more people will find and play those slots.
And seeing a streamer winning "sick money" on one of these slots... I think you understand what that will lead too.

So how are the accounts setup?
Im would assume the casino only really have to send requests out to providers. And then days/week later? they got a "streamer marketing account" setup.

Playing a slot with these accounts setup by the casino/providers works like any normal player account. The difference is that the provider don't charge any fees for spins that are done, since they are "streamer marketing accounts".
If the streamer wins 100,000€ on one of these accounts. Of course the casino wont pay that out, mabye some percentage or mabye nothing.
The accounts are just made and used like a tool for the streamer to keep on going.
Streamer can just keep on spinning and it costs the casino nothing, wich is great for them.

If you earn really good money from affilation, with accounts setup and no risk of losing "anything".
Why would you do a 360 and transition into playing with real funds. When you could just keep on doing your thing and earn good money.
In the end it's all about milking viewers, earning affilation money and try to keep viewers entertained, it's a job.

Mabye I wrote something like this at the beningenin, bedingdingening... beginning.
It's a highly successfull "collaboration", but nothing last forever, so milk it while it's still highly profitable.

BTW!
I remember the man in the hat won a huge amount of money on a slot, most been like 2 years ago.
You could see it was a real reaction when he won. It was not on n1 casino, im sure it was on Slottyvegas or QueenVegas.
Seeing him shocked, "his brain went blank", he is just staring and then a sudden headake hit him. So he called off the stream.
If you have won BIG money you might have had this happening.

But after that I don't think any "real reactions" has came out of him.

Slottyvegas :-(, I still find it hard to imagine streamers make alot from casino affiliation as most viewers are already signed up to the big casinos so it's only really the new ones they will get the money and there are so many streamers battling for the sign ups, would be nice to know how much affiliation pays or how it works, I've heard numbers being thrown about but ya just don't know these things lol 

[Original Jase]

On 11/02/2021 at 03:42, The Macho Man said:

I know how bots work, I build them. 

You obviously don't know how common sense works. Those 'bots' seem to type relevant messages related to the stream non-stop. Rosh must have some script he follows everyday. Then again this guy is an actor to everyone so maybe he writes 1,500 pages of bot text each day and acts it out. Amazing, give this guy an Oscar. 

I don't believe you. The bots on twitch copy messages from other streams and some you can programme to say what's relevant to the stream so it makes it look like they're not bots. I've seen this work myself and know of people who used bots on twitch but got banned back when twitch cared. I've had enough talking to you. Please stop tagging me

[Mwright1712]

1 hour ago, Homer Spinson said:

I don't believe you. The bots on twitch copy messages from other streams and some you can programme to say what's relevant to the stream so it makes it look like they're not bots. I've seen this work myself and know of people who used bots on twitch but got banned back when twitch cared. I've had enough talking to you. Please stop tagging me

Thot I'd just tag you lol 😝

[The Macho Man]

On 16/02/2021 at 01:52, Homer Spinson said:

I don't believe you. The bots on twitch copy messages from other streams and some you can programme to say what's relevant to the stream so it makes it look like they're not bots. I've seen this work myself and know of people who used bots on twitch but got banned back when twitch cared. I've had enough talking to you. Please stop tagging me

Yea you can program a bot to say whatever you want, even copied messages. but how are you going to program 10,000 bots to all say different messages at different times and STILL make it relevant to whats goin on in the stream at that moment. Use your brain for once. 

[Nystromia]

How do online casinos know if streamers like the R & J show are in fact money laundering for some big outfit? Is there a way for casinos to know something is no legit?

[Mwright1712]

4 hours ago, Nystromia said:

How do online casinos know if streamers like the R & J show are in fact money laundering for some big outfit? Is there a way for casinos to know something is no legit?

Can't launder with money that's not real, you need proof of wealth aswel these days to prove where your income is from etc 

[Original Jase]

@The Macho Man "use your brain for once." 

Another bit of irony there. The guy uses bots , end of story. 'Use your brain' for once. Again I don't believe you programme bots. You don't seem to know much about them. You can programme a bot to copy viewers from other streams, I've seen it done. 'the guy in the hat' does this and I've also witnessed this. If you're saying it takes time, then he can easily pay someone to do it like other streamers do

[Mwright1712]

2 hours ago, Homer Spinson said:

@The Macho Man "use your brain for once." 

Another bit of irony there. The guy uses bots , end of story. 'Use your brain' for once. Again I don't believe you programme bots. You don't seem to know much about them. You can programme a bot to copy viewers from other streams, I've seen it done. 'the guy in the hat' does this and I've also witnessed this. If you're saying it takes time, then he can easily pay someone to do it like other streamers do

Stop tagging me ffs lol 😂

[The Macho Man]

10 hours ago, Homer Spinson said:

@The Macho Man "use your brain for once." 

Another bit of irony there. The guy uses bots , end of story. 'Use your brain' for once. Again I don't believe you programme bots. You don't seem to know much about them. You can programme a bot to copy viewers from other streams, I've seen it done. 'the guy in the hat' does this and I've also witnessed this. If you're saying it takes time, then he can easily pay someone to do it like other streamers do

Nobodies saying you can't program bots to do that. THATS THE EASY PART. 

And just because you 'copy viewers' from other streams doesn't mean you can program the bots to sync up perfectly with whatever the streamer is doing. Like for example if Rosh hits a big win you see all the people in the chat freaking out and going crazy. Tell me how you're going to program a bot to react to that to make it look like a real viewer instead of saying random gibberish?

Anyone can create a bot that just says random stuff. And if his channel was full of bots you would notice that. But you never see it, because everyone would notice it immediately and call him out. So once again you don't know what you're talking about. You think this bot stuff is way more advanced than it really is. This is whats wrong with Rosh haters. you try and connect dots that don't exist to fit your narrative. In the end you just look like a fool.

[Original Jase]

@The Macho Man See these screenshots, these are bots. Let's see if u really know about bots. What's the obvious reason these are bots?

[dublinjay]

Its now very clear that both of you are bots...

 

 

[Mwright1712]

17 hours ago, Homer Spinson said:

@The Macho Man See these screenshots, these are bots. Let's see if u really know about bots. What's the obvious reason these are bots?

I think use should just have an old fashioned punch up and get this sorted out lads lol 😉

[The Macho Man]

On 19/02/2021 at 09:54, Homer Spinson said:

@The Macho Man See these screenshots, these are bots. Let's see if u really know about bots. What's the obvious reason these are bots?

 

if this is your proof then ill end the convo here, your IQ is showing.

[Skylined87]

I'll close this thread, going nowhere.