What is this all about ?? @Letsgiveitaspin @NickSlots

[Mwright1712]

1 minute ago, Samara said:

The contradiction is strong with this one! 

Yeah never watched em so how do ya know lol 

[joukot]

4 hours ago, Nick said:

Talk about dragging up the past.

This guy admitted to using fake money ie non withdrawable funds, without our knowledge of him doing so.

He was removed immediately from the streamer list, and i'd do it again in a heartbeat.

There is a big difference between using a deposit bonus that has wagering resulting in a REAL MONEY cashout vs a non withdrawable fake fund stream that is purely there with no investment from the streamer just to generate signups for the casino.

If you're into that sort of thing go watch the twat with a hat.

...with a hat 😄

[the_68]

4 hours ago, Slotspinner said:

Whatever anyone else does, playing non-withdrawable funds will get you booted from CG.

 

Thus is topic is quiet solved imo?

Damn right it is

[Mwright1712]

This is so unfair, I'm on gamstop so wanted to start streaming with toy money as I cant deposit, please casino grounds can use change this rule 😉

[dagreenblazer]

As a streamer, I really enjoyed watching Prophetting as he was good entertainment and his little dog was cute too! 

 

Personally, I don't care when watching slots whether it's their real money or not - I'm watching to see what excitement the game mechanics throw up and to have a laugh with the streamer and their chat. 

 

I appreciate though that CG has their rules and if you want to stream with them, then it's understandable they've got to be adhered to.

 

[Slotplayer]

On 01/02/2021 at 10:26, Nick said:

Talk about dragging up the past.

This guy admitted to using fake money ie non withdrawable funds, without our knowledge of him doing so.

He was removed immediately from the streamer list, and i'd do it again in a heartbeat.

There is a big difference between using a deposit bonus that has wagering resulting in a REAL MONEY cashout vs a non withdrawable fake fund stream that is purely there with no investment from the streamer just to generate signups for the casino.

If you're into that sort of thing go watch the twat with a hat.

You're right that those streamers need to be kicked out and exposed.

But how about those that get paid per video or can't withdraw all of their winnings because of withdrawal restrictions? Isn't that wrong too because that fake reaction of "look at me, I won £20,000x" doesn't mean anything when only £5k of that can be withdrawn (just some example numbers here).

[Mwright1712]

13 hours ago, dagreenblazer said:

As a streamer, I really enjoyed watching Prophetting as he was good entertainment and his little dog was cute too! 

 

Personally, I don't care when watching slots whether it's their real money or not - I'm watching to see what excitement the game mechanics throw up and to have a laugh with the streamer and their chat. 

 

I appreciate though that CG has their rules and if you want to stream with them, then it's understandable they've got to be adhered to.

 

Yeah the point is that the casinos are getting the sign ups from ppl who are watching when the streamer is taking no risk at all, I'm not a fan of ppl faking reactions when winning either when it's not even real, what's the point in that, if you want to act go to Hollywood, but ppl are of course entitled to watch whoever they like but it won't be a CG streamer who's trying to fool ppl and when ppl ask these other fakes to provide to proof they are instantly banned, they are just in it to line there own pockets from viewers

[The Macho Man]

Kinda odd to see CG owner throwing shade at the 'twat with a hat'.

I've always had my suspicions about the guy, but after learning more about the industry and how massive the guy is... There's literally no point in him using fake money? Maybe at the start of his career when he couldn't afford to? But the guy probably makes 100k+ a month off affiliate money alone. He can get the best deals from any casino he wants... Why would he even bother using fake money at that point. 

Hell he could even secure himself 'howie deals' if he really wanted to. There's no way that guy is fake (At this point). 

 

[Slotplayer]

21 hours ago, The Macho Man said:

Kinda odd to see CG owner throwing shade at the 'twat with a hat'.

I've always had my suspicions about the guy, but after learning more about the industry and how massive the guy is... There's literally no point in him using fake money? Maybe at the start of his career when he couldn't afford to? But the guy probably makes 100k+ a month off affiliate money alone. He can get the best deals from any casino he wants... Why would he even bother using fake money at that point. 

Hell he could even secure himself 'howie deals' if he really wanted to. There's no way that guy is fake (At this point). 

 

No way can some dodgy casino with a Caribbean iffy license lose a million Euro off the back of a low deposit match bonus with favorable wagering terms.

The guy is a fraud

[The Macho Man]

40 minutes ago, Slotplayer said:

No way can some dodgy casino with a Caribbean iffy license lose a million Euro off the back of a low deposit match bonus with favorable wagering terms.

The guy is a fraud

They probably bring in a million off his referrals everyday. Also he doesn't win a million dollars everyday. If you watch his streams him and his buddy probably go through 20-30k in deposits most days without even cashing out. 

On top of that the casinos don't even pay him out the full amounts he wins. He has a weekly withdrawal limit to prevent the casino from getting wrecked by high rollers. (Which is weird to me because you would think a casino bringing in millions a week would be able to pay out big wins faster, but I'm pretty sure its just a stall tactic to get people to put winnings back into the casino). If his winnings were fake why even limit the guy on withdrawal limits. They could easily just say he cashed out 1 million, the end.

The guys worth to casinos is immense. He has 20-30k viewers everyday on twitch. He has the power to bring in tens of thousands of referrals to casinos. If he's only getting low deposit match bonuses on top of his affiliate income, he's selling himself short. The guy can easily pull million dollar sponsorships with any casino (and to be honest he probably does get paid sponsorship money too).

The point is the guy is loaded at this point, he's a huge brand for casinos, and depositing $2,000 to get $8000 worth of play is nothing to him. Why would he fake that? If he was going to fake it why not pretend to deposit 10,20,50k at a time? If you watch his stream you can see hours of stream time of him losing and having to stop the stream for 5-10 mins just to redeposit and start again. If he was fake you really think someone would sit there and do that over and over everyday to put on an act?  Or better yet if you think he was fake do you really think he would want to sit there everyday pretending he has a wager he needs to meet? That shit is boring to watch, why would he intentionally degrade his stream by pretending to wager if its fake money and he can just shoot highlight wins all day with fake money?

[The Macho Man]

Also don't get me wrong, I think its possible the guy could of faked shit earlier in his career, but right now it makes no sense for him to fake anything with how much money he makes. He could lose 100, 2k reloads everyday for a month and he would probably still be profitable off his affiliate revenue. 

I think a lot of the hate he gets is from jealous streamers who see those viewer numbers and ask "why can't I get those numbers". Truth is the guy is just a good entertainer who puts in a lot of work and im sorry but 99% of slot streamers are fucking boring. Most of them just sit there and bitch all day until they win something then they're excited for 30 seconds before becoming bitter degenerates again.

Maybe instead of hating the guy, take some inspiration from how he runs his stream and how he makes it interesting to watch. The guy streams longer than any other streamer I've seen, he has the best production and he has the viewers to backup his success. 

I really think it's a jealousy thing. Lets be honest, even if somehow the guy was playing with fake money, he isn't where he is right now because of fake money. He's successful because he's just a better entertainer than every other streamer out there. He could do 1$ spins and be more interesting to watch that anyone else streaming right now. 

[Slotplayer]

40 minutes ago, The Macho Man said:

On top of that the casinos don't even pay him out the full amounts he wins. He has a weekly withdrawal limit to prevent the casino from getting wrecked by high rollers. (Which is weird to me because you would think a casino bringing in millions a week would be able to pay out big wins faster, but I'm pretty sure its just a stall tactic to get people to put winnings back into the casino). If his winnings were fake why even limit the guy on withdrawal limits. They could easily just say he cashed out 1 million, the end.

 

What a fine outfit of a casino to promote that has such limits......... not

Responsible gambling? He doesn't demonstrate the slightest bit of it

20k viewers? How many of them are bots?

[The Macho Man]

22 minutes ago, Slotplayer said:

What a fine outfit of a casino to promote that has such limits......... not

Responsible gambling? He doesn't demonstrate the slightest bit of it

20k viewers? How many of them are bots?

Id argue almost every online casino has withdrawal limits, so that's not unheard of. 

Responsible gambling he talks about it, but at the end of the day you're a grownup. You should know the risks before gambling, he isn't your parent. 

and 20k viewers, twitch would've given him the boot by now if he was view botting. You can see his viewers go up according to time zones. He sits at 7-8k for a couple hours in the early mornings and peaks when the EU and NA crowds converge. He has slow mode on in his twitch stream and its still faster than casino streamers with 3-4k viewers. I won't rule out some bots though, there could be some bots by people trying to farm channel points for his reward system, but he has no reason to view bot. He's the top slot streamer and view botting slots on twitch isn't going to really get you anywhere since the majority of people on twitch dont watch it for gambling anyway so view botting only helps him in the slot community which hes already #1 anyway, no benefit to view botting.

[olempiaps]

1 hour ago, The Macho Man said:

Id argue almost every online casino has withdrawal limits, so that's not unheard of. 

Responsible gambling he talks about it, but at the end of the day you're a grownup. You should know the risks before gambling, he isn't your parent. 

and 20k viewers, twitch would've given him the boot by now if he was view botting. You can see his viewers go up according to time zones. He sits at 7-8k for a couple hours in the early mornings and peaks when the EU and NA crowds converge. He has slow mode on in his twitch stream and its still faster than casino streamers with 3-4k viewers. I won't rule out some bots though, there could be some bots by people trying to farm channel points for his reward system, but he has no reason to view bot. He's the top slot streamer and view botting slots on twitch isn't going to really get you anywhere since the majority of people on twitch dont watch it for gambling anyway so view botting only helps him in the slot community which hes already #1 anyway, no benefit to view botting.

+1. his chat is active. I’ve seen legit streamers with 3-4k viewers with more dead chat. Does that mean they are also viewbotting? 
He makes bank, fake or not. 
 

[blueyescasino]

Twat in the hat is fake. You’re incredibly naive to think he’s playing real money. Perhaps have a look on the internet you’ll see plenty stories of people who were rolling in money going broke from gambling including footballers who squandered millions in career earnings. If that clown was real he would be bankrupt by now, it’s not sustainable regardless of someone’s bankroll. And ask yourself one question if it was real why carry on spinning after winning “500k” anyone normal and real would cash out and end the stream. 👍

[780xFTW]

On 01/02/2021 at 11:29, Slotspinner said:

Whatever anyone else does, playing non-withdrawable funds will get you booted from CG.

 

Thus is topic is quiet solved imo?

your bonuses on stars were pretty close to that

[siggy]

25 minutes ago, 780xFTW said:

your bonuses on stars were pretty close to that

Talking about Stars i remember their $50k Dream race giveaway battle.

Go to the 1hr 46min mark of this streamer battle and you'll hear the host (CEO of Casino Grounds) say if the streamers "run out of money we have organised that they will" 

Then an uncomfortable silence!

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/758325910?filter=all&sort=time

 

[The Macho Man]

2 hours ago, blueyescasino said:

Twat in the hat is fake. You’re incredibly naive to think he’s playing real money. Perhaps have a look on the internet you’ll see plenty stories of people who were rolling in money going broke from gambling including footballers who squandered millions in career earnings. If that clown was real he would be bankrupt by now, it’s not sustainable regardless of someone’s bankroll. And ask yourself one question if it was real why carry on spinning after winning “500k” anyone normal and real would cash out and end the stream. 👍

In those stories were those people ever paid millions of dollars for gambling? Did they ever get special bonuses that stretched their money? Were they 'professional gamblers?' No shit people lose money gambling. But when it's your job to gamble, you get paid to gamble and you have an edge over your average gambler with special deals. And he does lose a lot of money, I believe yesterday I went into his stream and his daily deposit was 44k with no withdrawal. So what is it? does he not lose enough money or does he make too much money?

Also read above about him and withdrawal limits. Most casinos have weekly withdrawal limits. I believe he said he could only withdrawal 100k a week. Also it takes him a lot of bullets/reloads to build a balance up so he can do the expensive stuff like 10k bonus buys. His stream provides entertainment if he cashed out everytime he won big it would be a stream of reloads and wager requirements. That's not how you become a 30k twitch streamer. People want to see big stakes and big wins. He does that and has the money to do that. 500K at this point isnt going to change his life, but it might make his streaming life a lot more fun for a few days while he chases world record wins. 

[Mwright1712]

Well he's getting plenty of free advertising on here, I know some of the CG streamers have contacts in the casinos and they know that the money ain't real, why not ask for a look at some deposit history and see how long you last in chat, sure thers a video online that proofs it and the hat is sitting there speechless when he's made the mistake, much better things to talk about on a Sunday though, like what I'm gona have for breakfast, this topic just drags on year after year unfortunately 😞

[Slotspinner]

12 hours ago, 780xFTW said:

your bonuses on stars were pretty close to that

why, can cash those out after wagering , Nothing to do with fake funds 

[The Macho Man]

5 hours ago, Mwright1712 said:

Well he's getting plenty of free advertising on here, I know some of the CG streamers have contacts in the casinos and they know that the money ain't real, why not ask for a look at some deposit history and see how long you last in chat, sure thers a video online that proofs it and the hat is sitting there speechless when he's made the mistake, much better things to talk about on a Sunday though, like what I'm gona have for breakfast, this topic just drags on year after year unfortunately 😞

He's shown proof of deposit history before but nobody ever wants to believe it. And nobody is going around saying "look see he proved it" so it gets old everyday when someone says 'fake money prove it'. It's just easier to avoid it because he will never prove to everyone he is legit because there are people out there who will never believe it.

And as far as your CG streamers that have contacts in the casino that prove its fake I'd like to know who, maybe they can step forward and stake their own reputation in saying they know its fake. Oh wait most never do because they're just jealous. 

Listen how many casinos is this guy affiliated with? How many has he dropped and never used? How many fallouts has he had with casinos. If this guy was 100% fake you would of expected someone to come out by now and blown his cover. Nobody ever does. In a world of bitter degenerate gamblers that hate on other peoples success, this guy seems to have lasted pretty long as a 'fake' streamer without any real evidence to prove he is. He's either the greatest liar, actor, bull shitter and has pulled off the longest con ever. Or maybe, just maybe... hes legit. You're all gamblers, what are the odds this guy has pulled off the perfect con job for years and years vs actually being legit? Which ones easier to pull off? 

[Mwright1712]

What big branded casinos is he affiliated with? Think nick already stepped forward in this post and said he's fake, I'm not saying he's not good at what he does, he's actually pretty likeable and entertaining and it's up to the viewer what they wana watch so it's dosnt bother me what fake streamers do as long as dosnt fk things up for all the legit ones, which it will no doubt, truth always comes out in the end so guess time will tell Randy 😉

[Original Jase]

Ok I'll share my side of the story which makes me know he's using fake money.  I don't need to ask around etc I can make up my own mind and it's comon sense a lot of it. Firstly when he started streaming he had a bio saying he was a college student. When people questioned how he can afford to gamble so high, and being a student made no sense, he changed his bio! Why? Because it did make no sense, how any student could be betting as high as he was and he also banned people for asking this. Why ban if there's nothing to hide?. That there was enough for me to confirm he's a fake and I know now he's obviously not a student anymore. Second bit of evidence is he's an actor. What I mean by that is he steals of a lot of his acts from Dr disrespect. For example, DrDisrespect had his house shot at during his live stream. What coincidence the this 'guy in a hat' shortly after DrDisrespect incident aslo has his have something done to it (sounded like a smashed window). He then acted the same way or at least tried to. He's a performer ladies and gentlemen. It's all an act, he even pretended to have a fake assistant just like DrDisrespect's 'Raul' and I've seen him copy other things. Thirdly, everyone with at least one brain cell can tell he has mostly bots in his stream. People say they can see people typing in the chat, well obviously, the bots are imitating other past human messages. He has also set up a friend doing a stream now and from day one the guy has 20k followers? Come on, he's using the same bots. Nobody gets 20k viewers first stream when they're not even known unless they're using bots. Lastly, I've seen clips of him messing up showing a fake balance not including a thousand other stories proving his using fake funds. Also to answer people who say he makes millions from affiliation, and the casino can afford it. Well don't you think he may own the casino or be a part of it? Not a single legit casino he's not involved in would take this guy on board to give him a bonus that risks them paying out a million euro and I'll stick by this until a legit casino states otherwise!

[Adamski22]

Wonder how many streamers would have enough balls to stand in front of the mirror and just be honest with themselves if they ever used "fake money" and they never said it to their viewers but they throw some bullshit over geeza that is just honest.To me personally even if this guy used to gamble with fake money he is still more legit for being honest than 60 % of the streamers these days.

[Orzabot]

15 minutes ago, Homer Spinson said:

Ok I'll share my side of the story which makes me know he's using fake money.  I don't need to ask around etc I can make up my own mind and it's comon sense a lot of it. Firstly when he started streaming he had a bio saying he was a college student. When people questioned how he can afford to gamble so high, and being a student made no sense, he changed his bio! Why? Because it did make no sense, how any student could be betting as high as he was and he also banned people for asking this. Why ban if there's nothing to hide?. That there was enough for me to confirm he's a fake and I know now he's obviously not a student anymore. Second bit of evidence is he's an actor. What I mean by that is he steals of a lot of his acts from Dr disrespect. For example, DrDisrespect had his house shot at during his live stream. What coincidence the this 'guy in a hat' shortly after DrDisrespect incident aslo has his have something done to it (sounded like a smashed window). He then acted the same way or at least tried to. He's a performer ladies and gentlemen. It's all an act, he even pretended to have a fake assistant just like DrDisrespect's 'Raul' and I've seen him copy other things. Thirdly, everyone with at least one brain cell can tell he has mostly bots in his stream. People say they can see people typing in the chat, well obviously, the bots are imitating other past human messages. He has also set up a friend doing a stream now and from day one the guy has 20k followers? Come on, he's using the same bots. Nobody gets 20k viewers first stream when they're not even known unless they're using bots. Lastly, I've seen clips of him messing up showing a fake balance not including a thousand other stories proving his using fake funds. Also to answer people who say he makes millions from affiliation, and the casino can afford it. Well don't you think he may own the casino or be a part of it? Not a single legit casino he's not involved in would take this guy on board to give him a bonus that risks them paying out a million euro and I'll stick by this until a legit casino states otherwise!

I can add to this that soon a another of his friends calls himself vondice will have his first stream on 21 feb, as far as i can see he has never streamed before, but he already has almost 20000 people follow him even before his first stream 😄