What are the odds for winnings 5000x + in slots?

[Stevej]

What are the odds for winning 5000x or more in slot machines? Sure it depends on the game, but what could it be?

[Orzabot]

Very small chance in my opinion. 

Some providers show how big the chance of getting a Max win is, f. Ex. Lokis Fortune from play n go is 1/100.000.000 spins to get a Max win of 20.000x 

I have played slots for over 5 years and so far only only 5000x+ for me on book of lords. 

[Jabs]

I'we had about 10 +5000x on "Money Train 2" through bonus buys. I might have bought about 100-150 bonuses since it first came out, Im in profit on this slot.

[Stevej]

Now I found some information too. 10000x winning odds for Paf's old Fisherman's Jackpot is 1:2391484. It's pretty difficult to find info though.

@Evolution Gaming OfficialCrazy Time has been dropping 5000x,2000x,1000x etc many times per week. That is cool for sure, but how is it possible? Crazy Time is running 10000 spins per week. Please someone, explain this to me, how is it possible? There are many bonus options for sure, you have to choose in some bonuses, but still. 

All the stats are here tracksino.com

 

[Make]

8 hours ago, Stevej said:

Now I found some information too. 10000x winning odds for Paf's old Fisherman's Jackpot is 1:2391484. It's pretty difficult to find info though.

@Evolution Gaming OfficialCrazy Time has been dropping 5000x,2000x,1000x etc many times per week. That is cool for sure, but how is it possible? Crazy Time is running 10000 spins per week. Please someone, explain this to me, how is it possible? There are many bonus options for sure, you have to choose in some bonuses, but still. 

All the stats are here tracksino.com

 

This is the reason it’s rigged. They have full control of the game. Giving 5000x per week is addictive as fuck and they’re getting more players.

Fucking pyramid scheme.

[Stevej]

21 minutes ago, Jeroen83 said:

Oh and the betsize obviously plays a large role. 80 cents could be more frequent then a 10 euro bet size and hitting the 5000x.

What?

[Stevej]

9 minutes ago, Jeroen83 said:

Volatility.

It doesn't make sense. Crazy Time has been spinning only about 650k spins.

That would make it a way way way much better game than those slots, but it still has a lower rtp.

Or maybe it doesn't hit a single win over 100x for the next 10 years. Volality. 😂

Edited 4 November, 2021 by Stevej

[dirtystack]

@Stevej let’s say you hit a 5000x on the Pachinko bonus game - while it might pay 5000x the pachinko bet, it isn’t really an overall 5000x win. 
 

The player likely bet on other positions, if they had bed the same amount on Pachinko, Coin flip, Crazytime and whatever the other bonus is called then it is an overall win of 1250x

Edited 5 November, 2021 by dirtystack

[StuMc91]

2 hours ago, dirtystack said:

@Stevej let’s say you hit a 5000x on the Pachinko bonus game - while it might pay 5000x the pachinko bet, it isn’t really an overall 5000x win. 
 

The player likely bet on other positions, if they had bed the same amount on Pachinko, Coin flip, Crazytime and whatever the other bonus is called then it is an overall win of 1250x

Was just about to say this, you mustn't forget on CT you're playing more than one position, most players will play all 4 bonus segments, so if you hit one of them you need to hit at least a 4x just to break even on the bet as a whole etc.

[dirtystack]

Nice wins @Jeroen83 

 

[vanHooff]

Yes, some really great wins there Jeroen, congratulations!

You might want to put a significant part of the winnings away in case you ever want to return to the Netherlands and want to have a roof above your head, house prices and rent increases are insane here and now.

About the 5000x wins: IIRC I have had exactly one of those wins in all of my online gambling career, and posted about that win on here. 
I played a couple of million spins including many bonus buys.

 

[Peachyslots]

I think your best bet to win a 5000x or more could be Dead or Alive 2 . 

It can take some grinding but, I had... I think 4 or 5 wildlines that went over 5000x out of 10 in total ( mostly on 0,09 but I prefer to keep the cost low if possible ) . With the best being 19910x . 

The only other 5000x + I had was couple weeks ago a wildline on Napoleon ( which has to be once in a lifetime ) and 8000x on Mental, which I now try to stay far away from cause, I spent "a bit" on bonus buys, it's too dangerous. idk who thought it would be a good idea to introduce 1000 or 2000x bonus buys on slots, that guy should go to jail 😡

But yeah if you ask me, without buying bonusses, DoA2 is a good choice if you're trying to get a 5000x 👍

 

[FreeWheelerBaby]

I have been playing 10 years, spend a fortune week in week out and most I have had is 3000x and got that once and a couple of 2000x I have spent more in a week that I have ever cashed out in one time in 10 years of playing…

I am in UK though so cant buy bonuses, puts me at big disadvantage of any big wins, I would like to know what the chances are of winning big without buying the bonus…! 

Edited 26 January, 2022 by FreeWheelerBaby

[teckiwi]

I think slots should be like scratch cards with published odds of max or major wins(and also odds of them for bonus buys if thats an option). People still buy them despite knowing the odds are terrible.

[JackP92]

I dont wake up out of bed for no less than 10,000x 😅😅😅😅

[StallCation]

8 hours ago, FreeWheelerBaby said:

I have been playing 10 years, spend a fortune week in week out and most I have had is 3000x and got that once and a couple of 2000x I have spent more in a week that I have ever cashed out in one time in 10 years of playing…

I am in UK though so cant buy bonuses, puts me at big disadvantage of any big wins, I would like to know what the chances are of winning big without buying the bonus…! 

Yes, seems familiar. In around 12 years of playing slots, I've only ever hit >3000x once, of course on minimum betsize (DoA). Never had a max. win on any slot, in spite of countless attempts.

Thank Gamblin' God(s) I didn't rip a lot over the years, I'm around 8,000€ down lifetime, which is probably pretty lucky all things considered.

Anyway, this is the reason I laugh out loud, when some streamers whine about "not hitting a 5000x in months"...

[FreeWheelerBaby]

7 hours ago, StallCation said:

Yes, seems familiar. In around 12 years of playing slots, I've only ever hit >3000x once, of course on minimum betsize (DoA). Never had a max. win on any slot, in spite of countless attempts.

Thank Gamblin' God(s) I didn't rip a lot over the years, I'm around 8,000€ down lifetime, which is probably pretty lucky all things considered.

Anyway, this is the reason I laugh out loud, when some streamers whine about "not hitting a 5000x in months"...

Yes I get it I am down around over 100k over the years just never ending loses, I don’t ever get 1 full week where I am up.. Video slots has been the worst for me..! I saw a post saying that videoslots RTP to UK players is lower so I asked them and they said it was same for everyone! Something just isn’t right. It states on there site my RTP is 94.8% total lie I have calculated no more that 58% I am going to right a report tomorrow to them for answers I will publish my findings on here… I also find I get knocked off when hit a bonus and pragmatic reloads sometimes like its using a skin! and I am sure they are using the freebie slot battle spins against the rtp ! What casinos do you play on? 

[dispenseri]

I remember a few years back Kim was talking about how Reactoonz is the likeliest game to hit a 5000x on. I don't know what was he basing that on though.

Edit: Sorry, I forgot that Reactoonz' max is 1500x, not 5000x.

Edited 27 January, 2022 by dispenseri

[Avidgambler]

Max win for Reactoonz is definitely not 1500x, but closer to 5000x, 4750x to be exact if I remember correctly. I've never seen one though, but I have seen above 3000x wins on it. 

Now getting a 5000x win is a pretty damn hard, much harder than people usually think. I think this is mainly due the raising popularity of bonus buys and volatile games in general. It seems 5000x wins happen all the time, when in reality they don't. 

I have never got a 5000x win from normal spin and I have been an active gambler for years. Best one I got is 2500x and some more between 1000x and 2000x.  Now I do tend to play bonus buy games and from bonus buys I have multiple over 5000x wins but those are effectively not 5000x wins as in 5000x times the bonus buy bet. 

From normal spin chances of winning 5000x or a greater win varies a lot between slots and info isn't that easily found generally, but I give a rough estimate of between  500k and few million spins. So yeah u gotta get pretty lucky and spinning a million spins is costly. I am interested to know if someone has some actual numbers for different slots though. 

Now obviously for bonus buys this is completely different as my results also show. With a standard 100x bet bonus buy the chance might be 1 out of 1000 bonus buys for example and for some degenerate bonus buy like San Quentin (2000x stake!!) seemingly low like 1 in 100 for example. But as I said these are not comparable to normal spin wins.

[Avidgambler]

And while at it I might add that getting a bigger and bigger win usually gets progressively harder.  So getting a 5000x win isn't 5 times harder than getting a 1000x win but more. So for example the Relax game Iron Bank. 

For normal spin getting a 1000x win or greater might be a 1/20 000 chance. 

Getting a 5000x or greater win might be a 1/500 000 chance.

And getting the max win of 50 000x from a normal spin might be 1/ 250 000 000 chance. 

 

For bonus buys (100x stake) these chances might be on average: 

Getting a 1000x win or greater might be a 1/75 chance. 

Getting a 5000x or greater win might be a 1/1000 chance.

And getting the max win of 50 000x from a bonus buy might be 1/ 1000 000 chance. 

[FreeWheelerBaby]

On 27/01/2022 at 09:39, Avidgambler said:

And while at it I might add that getting a bigger and bigger win usually gets progressively harder.  So getting a 5000x win isn't 5 times harder than getting a 1000x win but more. So for example the Relax game Iron Bank. 

For normal spin getting a 1000x win or greater might be a 1/20 000 chance. 

Getting a 5000x or greater win might be a 1/500 000 chance.

And getting the max win of 50 000x from a normal spin might be 1/ 250 000 000 chance. 

 

For bonus buys (100x stake) these chances might be on average: 

Getting a 1000x win or greater might be a 1/75 chance. 

Getting a 5000x or greater win might be a 1/1000 chance.

And getting the max win of 50 000x from a bonus buy might be 1/ 1000 000 chance. 

 

On 27/01/2022 at 09:39, Avidgambler said:

And while at it I might add that getting a bigger and bigger win usually gets progressively harder.  So getting a 5000x win isn't 5 times harder than getting a 1000x win but more. So for example the Relax game Iron Bank. 

For normal spin getting a 1000x win or greater might be a 1/20 000 chance. 

Getting a 5000x or greater win might be a 1/500 000 chance.

And getting the max win of 50 000x from a normal spin might be 1/ 250 000 000 chance. 

 

For bonus buys (100x stake) these chances might be on average: 

Getting a 1000x win or greater might be a 1/75 chance. 

Getting a 5000x or greater win might be a 1/1000 chance.

And getting the max win of 50 000x from a bonus buy might be 1/ 1000 000 chance. 

Yes that seems about right , I hit bonus all the time especially on pragmatic play, however don’t ever get much from them. Do you have any advice on what to play because pragmatic just bleeds me every day, and UK players can’t buy bonuses, I am starting to think its impossible to get any big wins 

[Avidgambler]

35 minutes ago, FreeWheelerBaby said:

 

Yes that seems about right , I hit bonus all the time especially on pragmatic play, however don’t ever get much from them. Do you have any advice on what to play because pragmatic just bleeds me every day, and UK players can’t buy bonuses, I am starting to think its impossible to get any big wins 

Well I mean truth to be told, winning big is hard. No way to sugar-coat it. You have to get very lucky or play a lot, preferably both. But remember that all slots are - ev games so spinning tens of thousands of spins might not be the ideal solution. Game selection doesn't have that huge of an impact, more than anything it just boils down to being lucky. Now game selection wise, I would still prefer medium to high volatility slots since you don't have the option of bonus buys (and ofc hight rtp is preferable). Like I personally also play quite a lot relax and nolimit city games and such but to be honest most of the newer and more volatile ones are more suited for bonus buys in my opinion. For no bonus, I personally like to go for some elk games, btg, even net ent and blueprint offer some good options just to name a few. Anywayws gl! You will hit big eventually.

[StallCation]

On 27/01/2022 at 00:38, FreeWheelerBaby said:

Yes I get it I am down around over 100k over the years just never ending loses, I don’t ever get 1 full week where I am up.. Video slots has been the worst for me..! I saw a post saying that videoslots RTP to UK players is lower so I asked them and they said it was same for everyone! Something just isn’t right. It states on there site my RTP is 94.8% total lie I have calculated no more that 58% I am going to right a report tomorrow to them for answers I will publish my findings on here… I also find I get knocked off when hit a bonus and pragmatic reloads sometimes like its using a skin! and I am sure they are using the freebie slot battle spins against the rtp ! What casinos do you play on? 

Damn, I'm sorry to hear @FreeWheelerBaby. Seems pretty brutal, even if casinos of course have the edge over time.

But talking about that RTP statement on eg. Videoslots: I agree, it's bs - or at least it's not taking betsize into consideration, meaning you could theoretically have a stated RTP of 200% and still be down. 

I'm living in Denmark, so I'm playing on at least some casinos that are not available to UK players. I don't suppose you are familiar with eg. Tivoli Casino, Danske Spil, RoyalCasino and Spillehallen, which are some of my Danish based favourite sites. These are all very well regulated sites, where I haven't had any issues concerning verification, payouts etc.

I wish you better luck in the future. And if the cold run endures, I'd recommend you to do like I do, when slots are being absolute douchebags: Take a long break from the suckers! 

[FreeWheelerBaby]

@StallCationthanks m8, have a look in the general topics videoslots RTP scam or no ??? 
I have posted what happened to me with screen shots  

You are not wrong about the RTP 

On 30/01/2022 at 21:07, Avidgambler said:

Well I mean truth to be told, winning big is hard. No way to sugar-coat it. You have to get very lucky or play a lot, preferably both. But remember that all slots are - ev games so spinning tens of thousands of spins might not be the ideal solution. Game selection doesn't have that huge of an impact, more than anything it just boils down to being lucky. Now game selection wise, I would still prefer medium to high volatility slots since you don't have the option of bonus buys (and ofc hight rtp is preferable). Like I personally also play quite a lot relax and nolimit city games and such but to be honest most of the newer and more volatile ones are more suited for bonus buys in my opinion. For no bonus, I personally like to go for some elk games, btg, even net ent and blueprint offer some good options just to name a few. Anywayws gl! You will hit big eventually.

@AvidgamblerThanks m8, I have just posted on general topics with screenshots about the experience I had with @videoslots. videoslots RTP scam or no ??? 

[Wakepro215]

Basically like hitting a lottery ticket. I have recently hit a max win on dasboot (55,200x) and the odds are 1:63,000,000. While hitting the lotto max (canadian lottery) is 1:36,000,000. The odds of hitting are insane..  slots are not to make you rich.