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You are talking about it like it is a fact again. If you are so convinced then investigate. Do something about it. Uncover it and expose it. Go work for a slot provider and gather information. There is no amount of speculating that is going to uncover anything. You should also read up on how NDA's actually work and when they are waived. An NDA is nothing outside the USA and their odd mentality. They mean nothing when the NDA is broken to expose something immoral, wrong, damaging. You should contact and interact with the UKGC and maybe you would understand how rigid they are and how it is impossible to get any leeway with them. You should also investigate how gambling actually works. Just coming up with excuses to dismiss anything that is against what you are saying, based on what you believe, well, it is certainly a waste of my time responding. There is nothing I can say which will change this sense that you have. If you are that convinced then do something about it as what you are currently doing serves no purpose. You are posing an idea and reinforcing it within yourself without any actual evidence or inside knowledge - this is normal human behaviour and I do it myself all the bloody time. Casinos are not some big secret, there are no looser lips then those of the employees in the casino sector. Go and find out for sure, discover, gather presentable evidence. Then you would be doing something worthwhile. It's good to have a purpose, so make it your purpose, just don't get blinded by it and don't assume everyone who responds to you has an ulterior motive.

Yeah it would be crossing the line. It would also be crossing a line if they used that camera on your laptop to spy on and record you while you masturbate and then, once you hit big and tried to cashout, they threatened to release the video unless you reverse your withdrawal and loose all your balance. You can't prove that the above doesn't happen. I can't prove that it does, and you can't prove that it doesn't. Until you can prove that it doesn't happen then we need to assume that it does happen. I mean think about it, it's obviously happening this way as they are shady businesses out to get you money by any means possible. Please share your reasons why you are confident that this isn't happening as I prefer to masturbate without fear like you lucky bastards. What do you think guys, is this fair? Ah What I am trying to say is that you've made a line which it would be out of order if they crossed, but it is a line of your creation and you talk about it as though it is factual. You don't have any idea and if you really think this is happening then going to the UKGC - they love investigating, auditing and dishing out big fines for non compliance. Why not get a a job with on of the slot providers and expose them if you have the background in networking - they are not some secretive industry, they are just like any other business; full of employees who really do not give a fuck about the investment company that owns them. If this was happening, outside of some rogue operations, then it would be known rather then guessed at.

Bet you continue gambling despite the “obvious” rigging.

@Homer Spinsonwhen you a fired, quit, made redundant or retire from a slot provider you are promptly assassinated, they make it look like an accident. @beetaillight They are just normal companies, with normal employees, who resent their employer as much as the employees of any other company.

I haven't come across this before, which sites?

Lets take PlaynGo - lets say they were manipulating their games and not running them consistent with the versions that went through testing. We don't know enough about anything to display or prove anything. But Netent would. I'm sure they would love to expose PlaynGo's shenanigans and get all their games banned, reclaiming the number 1 slot provider title. There is no gentlemen's agreement between these companies, no "I won't tell on you if you don't tell on me" arrangement. How much do you think Netent would be willing to pay a PlaynGo employee for this information? Millions? hundreds of thousands? Some software coder would spill the beans in a heartbeat.

Casinos don't want you to play live games/lower the wagering percent on live games because the house advantage on live games is a lot lower then the average 5% advantage the house has on slots. Roulette has a house advantage of 2.7% which, if the bonus on roulette had 35x wagering, would actually make it so you are playing roulette with a slight advantage over the house. You would, on average, make £5.50 profit per £100 bonus you have with a 35x wager. (£3500 wagered at 2.7% house advantage =£94.50 spent whilst clearing the wagering = £5.50 profit) On Blackjack it is even more pronounced as, if you play basic strategy, the house advantage is around 1%. If you were playing basic strategy with a bonus with 35x wagering requirement then you would have a big advantage over the house. (an average of £65 profit per £100 bonus with 35x wagering) It's fine to speculate, investigate and seek more information but you can't draw conclusions and make assertions when it might be your ignorance which is pointing you in a specific direction. You also need to bear in mind that the conviction you feel, and I feel the same thing very often, is heavily influenced by your recent results. Sometimes I watch a streamer and I'm like: "oh, they are playing a new game, I wonder if they will hit a 1000x" "oh, that's nice, they hit a 3000x" "On a Quickspin game....." Then they never touch the game again because it "never pays" Gets me speculating like mad.

A lowball Jamming jar fail. last spin landed like this, thought the game had froze lol.

@Nolimit-Malcolmyour sound guys need a raise - the sounds on NoLimit games is top notch and give the games some tangibility, makes me perceive them to have some physical mass.

That is a lot of py6

How much money in relation to your deposit? Aggravation cost money and hours so, if it is a small amount in relation to the prospective value of a player, it’s better from a business viewpoint to let some things go. Just bear in mind that common sense when dealing with such issues is a rarity in the casino world; don’t expect a new precedent to have been set.

You can't bet more then £5 per spin and you can't bet more then £0.50 per line. This is how it is and if you argue that is isn't clear in the T&C's you will get told by the casino, and any complaint's service, that it is clear, straightfoward, and an industry standard T&C.

You had to have your bet on before the very first multiplier, the wheel spun multiplier>multiplier>4 rolls. You had to have your bet on before the first multiplier - you can't place a bet after a multiplier has landed and before the next spin. You have no proof, you have no hand history, there is nothing online showing anyone who had a valid bet get rejected on the 9600x win - not a single forum post with a hand history shown on the whole internet. Guess everyone who missed out on the 9600x win just shrugged and let it go.

The deposit cover would surely constitute income and be taxable. Whether the streamer wins or loses with the covered deposit, assuming it is real money and can in fact be withdrawn at some point, it would be income and therefore taxable. The only way it isn't tax fraud, for the casino as well is: If it is fake money and always has been fake money or The streamer is declaring the covered deposits as income and paying tax on the initial covered deposit amount. Am I wrong? Maybe the UK government should be paying 70% of the deposits under the furlough scheme!

Free money. Not really representing to the viewer the realities of gambling. Free in that, should you lose your balance, you are no worse of then you were prior to playing. It is fake if the streamer/player incurs no loss when they lose their balance. You can't say that they lost out on potential earnings when they lost their balance and didn't cash out. If it's fake when they lose it, it's still fake when they win and cash something out. It is disgusting. What is it? are they giving affiliate payments through the casino client? Tax dodge? what? If casinos are doing this and giving streamers a balance to play with, the profit of which they can cash out. How is that not a payment for services which has completely avoided the tax man? Casino gives streamer £1000 to pay with for advertising their casino - tax free payment. Streamer doubles balance and cashes out £2000 - they should still be paying tax on that initial £1000 Suggest the various gambling commissions look into that potential tax dodge. Dodgy as fuck and if some casinos are doing this, well, what else? Some of those multiple thousand x wins on the new games, first time playing them them, they legit or are they just another way for the casino to issue affiliate payments and advertise new slots. Get the tax man on it, he has more teeth then gambling commissions.

Looked it up. They are asserting that if a casino doesn’t have a UKGC licence then It can’t be shown, via twitch, to a U.K. audience. Makes sense, and while it’s policeable for this specific thing, it implies that all content must be licensed/ permitted in the viewers region.

He is referring to chipmunk or whatever his name is. I don’t see how the UKGC could have any influence whatsoever over Twitch.

Teamkayenne is agreeing with you. you said : Teamkayenne said:

The max win on Pragmatic slots is pretty much BS aside from on the 5000x max win Fruit Party (or whatever it is called) They seem to be comfortable stating that the max possible win is the amount you would be paid if you had fullscreen wilds everywhere, it might be what the max possible pay is according to the paytable if you were to get fullscreen wilds but it is not possible within the games themselves. Madam Destiny, win up to 18000x in the basegame, up to 54000x perspin in the bonus round!!! Yes, if you get fullscreen wilds in the basegame then you get 18000x, if you get fullscreen wilds in the bonus round you will get 54000x for that spin - these are the max possible wins if you were to ignore everything and calculate the maax possible win from the paytable information. It is completly removed from the actual game itself and is very misleading. If you kept an eye on the pragmatic network tournaments, there has been week long ones constantly running over the last year, you will see them won with a win around 5000x - this is across many many participating casinos, a changing variety of eligible games, and likely hundreds of thousands - possibly millions players around the world, billions and billions of spins. @Teamkayenne 180 000x on Peking luck, I bet that is what a single spin with pay in the bonus round, with max multi, if you got fullscreen wilds. I just went and checked the paytable; 400x for 5 wilds multiplied by 25 lines multiplied by a the max freespin multi(18x) = 180 000x. Their max win figure does not take into account the actual maths and mechanics of the game, it just gives you a bullshit representation of some paytable fantasy.

Fair enough. Curious

Hmm, UK excluded. That is new, is that going to be the case from now on?

@Teamkayenne have had 2300x on Reactoonz before. Someone hit 3900x on it too according to slottracker, iirc

@StallCation It’s odd how when you play some games, with a touted possible win, You get the feeling the advertised potential is realisable and with others, with the same supposed potential, you can’t even contemplate anything near the advertised possibility. Even more perplexing when the game is by the same provider.

Licencee criminal conviction?

Biggest win I have seen on Ricketfellas