Roshtein practise mode is the same balance as real mode?

[DanishDaniel]

5 minutes ago, the_68 said:

If you agree to those terms, I say if, then your are as sketchy as the casinos providing these bonuses, or free money.  

For sure, if you KNOW that they are doing that. I just think the evidence shown is more indicating that N1 is sketchy than Roshtein.

Roshtein may or may not know, it's hard to say and it's really just guessing. It's big business, and a lot of money is being handled. The money that Roshtein is earning is quite low compared to all the other money being made in the industry, and since he is so big compared to other streamers it's just hard. If we look at other streamers with 20k viewers, they can earn up to $10k an hour for streaming sponsored games. To think that a casino streamer vs a gaming streamer wouldn't be able to make at least the same on sponsored content doesn't seem right.

[the_68]

32 minutes ago, DanishDaniel said:

For sure, if you KNOW that they are doing that. I just think the evidence shown is more indicating that N1 is sketchy than Roshtein.

Roshtein may or may not know, it's hard to say and it's really just guessing. It's big business, and a lot of money is being handled. The money that Roshtein is earning is quite low compared to all the other money being made in the industry, and since he is so big compared to other streamers it's just hard. If we look at other streamers with 20k viewers, they can earn up to $10k an hour for streaming sponsored games. To think that a casino streamer vs a gaming streamer wouldn't be able to make at least the same on sponsored content doesn't seem right.

Sure, 20k REAL viewers  Not so sure that's the case here.   

[DanishDaniel]

Just now, the_68 said:

Sure, 20k REAL viewers  Not so sure that's the case here.   

I should've gone by average. The 20k numbers are only when something crazy is happening. His average is just below 10k, which is still great. 

But why do you think it should be view botting? Looking at the graph of growth in average viewers, it really doesn't stand out.

[the_68]

2 hours ago, DanishDaniel said:

I should've gone by average. The 20k numbers are only when something crazy is happening. His average is just below 10k, which is still great. 

But why do you think it should be view botting? Looking at the graph of growth in average viewers, it really doesn't stand out.

Heard about things pointing in that direction. There are ways to check stuff like that as well. For example if a streamer has many viewers with very random names and they only have followed for like 20 minutes....But heard other things too. But since it not 100%, only 99, I won't take this further  

[DanishDaniel]

1 minute ago, the_68 said:

Heard about things pointing in that direction. There are ways to check stuff like that as well. For example if a streamer has many viewers with very random names and they only has followed for like 20 minutes....But heard other things too. But since it not 100%, only 99, I won't take this further  

Only things I hear people talking about is the higher follower rate which is so easy to explain.

And categorizing names as very random can also be hard, there are people like that on every stream. But as I mentioned earlier, Roshstein has a way larger percentage of new viewers than other casino streamers.

[Xxxxwildingxxxx]

He does repeat the process is this time real tho

If your automatically logged  out would it go to play money yes no considering this if he logged in later on and it alls fine but knowbody mentions this then i understand you dont want to see him show yu was all mostly wrong i understand this 

[Xxxxwildingxxxx]

I dont know but becuase i dont know im not saying it fake or real im being fair and saying the proof that people are going on about havnt consider a fair chance of other possibilities thats just not fair on anyone becuase you could be wrong 

[the_68]

20 minutes ago, DanishDaniel said:

Only things I hear people talking about is the higher follower rate which is so easy to explain.

And categorizing names as very random can also be hard, there are people like that on every stream. But as I mentioned earlier, Roshstein has a way larger percentage of new viewers than other casino streamers.

Yes, and since I really don't know for sure I should be more careful pointing fingers.

[Rexxor420]

You guys just waste your time here, people who think he is fake will always think that, nothing will change that. Same goes for people who think he is real/legit.

Invest your time/energy in something thats worth it. ^^

 

 

[dirtystack]

He must make so much from subscriptions though. I'd be gambling through that income like a madman.

[Xxxxwildingxxxx]

20 minutes ago, Rexxor420 said:

You guys just waste your time here, people who think he is fake will always think that, nothing will change that. Same goes for people who think he is real/legit.

Invest your time/energy in something thats worth it. ^^

 

 

U posted here to i hope you practice what you preach

[Rexxor420]

5 minutes ago, Xxxxwildingxxxx said:

U posted here to i hope you practice what you preach

no

[asmeister]

23 hours ago, DanishDaniel said:

You keep talking down to me, instead of just proving that you're right, why?

because you're defending something absurdly stupid that is obviously stupid for the majority of people who aren't emotionally to something (let alone a casino streamer)

if common sense isn't enough for you, go check the other thread with the code. But, I'm sure since roshtein fans are the equivalent of scientologists, you'll find a way to believe either way

[DanishDaniel]

1 minute ago, asmeister said:

because you're defending something absurdly stupid that is obviously stupid for the majority of people who aren't emotionally to something (let alone a casino streamer)

if common sense isn't enough for you, go check the other thread with the code. But, I'm sure since roshtein fans are the equivalent of scientologists, you'll find a way to believe either way

You think that I am a "fan" of him, so you clearly didn't read everything I wrote.

You're not capable of delivering proof, and your toxicity tells a lot about you.

[asmeister]

yes yes I'm very toxic

I'm not the one writing paragraphs regarding bugs, I'm not the one making excuses about bonus money play, and after someone posted what looks to be pretty conclusive proof that it was fake money all along, I'm not the one still yapping about it 

look you can watch him and cheerlead him all you want while declaring you're not a fan, it doesn't really matter but at least be honest about it and try to deal with the fact it was pretty obvious from the get-go that the dude is a fraud

 

 if it matters to you that much perhaps you should reflect on what is important and what is not

[MrGumbOoO]

When he starts on screen he is trying to explain what 'could' have happened.  Then starts bragging about how much he earns from his affiliates etc. 

[Xxxxwildingxxxx]

15 hours ago, asmeister said:

because you're defending something absurdly stupid that is obviously stupid for the majority of people who aren't emotionally to something (let alone a casino streamer)

if common sense isn't enough for you, go check the other thread with the code. But, I'm sure since roshtein fans are the equivalent of scientologists, you'll find a way to believe either way

If its correct that ti was error and the balance are real calling  stupid means ?

[Kisch]

So so many bitter people in here,not easy to take when someone succeed. 

Nice community, im out from this site. 

[IndianSpins]

Oh no, he is definitely not real! SO many viewers, such less chatters and with those balances he plays with, Nuh-Uh!

[pausefisk]

Think about this:

If LeoVegas is paying 30 million SEK for 51% of the shares in CG, with streamers that has collectively way below the number of followers Roshtein has, don't you think he earns enough affiliate money to cover his stakes?

He can play and stream for the same reason most streamers on CG can afford, some luck in winnings, but most income from affiliate money. Without affiliate money and bonuses, they couldnt survive in long term. Unless you come from a rich family or something, you need this to stay in business on this level.

Whether he plays with fake or real money is another matter, but there is no reason why he cant play with real money based on possible income from being an affiliate.

I belive all streamers on CG use their own money, but at the same time i belive those own money comes from beeing an affiliate, or via casino grounds earnings, so how you choose to define "own" money is up to yourselfe.

In the end, the truth is that most streamer play with YOUR money.

Have a nice day

[MrX]

Hahahaha Rostein never deposit single penny from his pocket  to any casinio read this post below and open your mind.

Let me show you his same behaviours and bissnes strategy from beggining  (from last 5 years when he start sterming online ) His main point always was same :

1. Find casino where you can get an approved affiliate agreement for play for their - company money on the stream
2. Show for vievers community high bets and deliviered high numbers of customers from affiliate without risk his own money for deposits.
3. Share commision beetwen him and partner/ company

Around 5 years ago he start  straming play and advertise casino Multilotto ( very low quality casino with bad reputation with only few slots )

You think Any Legit Highroller - Will decided Play in Casino called Multilotto with 50 € bets per spin - when in web was Huge number other good high quality casinos with good reputation? But for him the best place for play with 50 € per spin was casino with bad reputation - with one slots provider - and with literally maybe 20 slots (in this time in Multilotto was just few slots in site - thats all) - And they was well knowed from low max cashauts limits - long payments time period - and all other mess - But this was not problem for him ..

And after 1-2 years playing only in this low quality casino with 50€ bets per spin - he moved to next casino he make new affiliate deal ( same strategy - got aproved for set up testing player account for streaming for virtual money ) and this time he decided - The best place for him legit Highroller will be VIKS secund casino with bad reputation low max cashuts limits.........

Same story . - Again - Casino with bad reputation - low limits - and his 50€ Bets per spin on stream ..
 

Do you serious belive - Any Legit Highroler chose for play 50€ per spin 2 shitty casinos in row ? for - period around 2 Years ? and keep playing always only in this 2 low quality casinos without single try just one High Quality casino ?

- He was play in this 2 casinos beacouse - He dont care abaout his own gambling results - about their bad reputations and low max cashouts limits - The only point was recived affiliate agrements to play for their money on his testing players account for streams only and bring affiliate trafic for casino without risk his own money to deposits.

This was his strategy from begining and during this time he still not learn how show real gambling player reactions - His reactions after lose - big wins always same -acting to make funny show - Never acting like real gambler .

And now he work for  N1 company - so if you watching him from beggining is very easy match the puzzle and get simple conclusion .

+  "  Another N1 casino streamer/affiliate doing 50 euro bets full of chat bots and view bots. " -  channel is CasinoMoLive on twitch

Its only case of time and you see  several new   Highrollers -  come out of nowhere and streaming  and playing at N1/LaddyHammer/Maneki  casino with 50€ bets for Spin.

And Company never  tell you true abaout  Roshtein beacouse he is their top affiliate  and he make them huge money so they cant tell you - Yes Roshtein is fake  - beacouse if his affiliate traffic drop  then they lose HUGE potenciale of future earnings from  all  his vievers / begginers who watch him with excited and belive he is legit .

Company N1 already noticed thie unethical bissnes strategy work well for them - ( set up testing player account for streming for Huge affiliate partners like Roshtein ) then   he can show for community for  vievers  every day   High bets 50€ per spin without  risk his own money -  Peoples love  watching Highrolling so  he deliviered high Numbers of new signups   massive traffic + Company  additional converted all this signups  often  with  unethical emailing - " Roshtein win 50.000€ just for 50€ bets - come play with us be like Roshtein "      Its just simple unethical  bissnes strategy to bring traffic nothing more.

[danishcomfort]

Postmodernism. I wish I was born before the Internet.

[Haibuse]

8 hours ago, MrX said:

Hahahaha Rostein never deposit single penny from his pocket  to any casinio read this post below and open your mind.

Let me show you his same behaviours and bissnes strategy from beggining  (from last 5 years when he start sterming online ) His main point always was same :

1. Find casino where you can get an approved affiliate agreement for play for their - company money on the stream
2. Show for vievers community high bets and deliviered high numbers of customers from affiliate without risk his own money for deposits.
3. Share commision beetwen him and partner/ company

Around 5 years ago he start  straming play and advertise casino Multilotto ( very low quality casino with bad reputation with only few slots )

You think Any Legit Highroller - Will decided Play in Casino called Multilotto with 50 € bets per spin - when in web was Huge number other good high quality casinos with good reputation? But for him the best place for play with 50 € per spin was casino with bad reputation - with one slots provider - and with literally maybe 20 slots (in this time in Multilotto was just few slots in site - thats all) - And they was well knowed from low max cashauts limits - long payments time period - and all other mess - But this was not problem for him ..

And after 1-2 years playing only in this low quality casino with 50€ bets per spin - he moved to next casino he make new affiliate deal ( same strategy - got aproved for set up testing player account for streaming for virtual money ) and this time he decided - The best place for him legit Highroller will be VIKS secund casino with bad reputation low max cashuts limits.........

Same story . - Again - Casino with bad reputation - low limits - and his 50€ Bets per spin on stream ..
 

Do you serious belive - Any Legit Highroler chose for play 50€ per spin 2 shitty casinos in row ? for - period around 2 Years ? and keep playing always only in this 2 low quality casinos without single try just one High Quality casino ?

- He was play in this 2 casinos beacouse - He dont care abaout his own gambling results - about their bad reputations and low max cashouts limits - The only point was recived affiliate agrements to play for their money on his testing players account for streams only and bring affiliate trafic for casino without risk his own money to deposits.

This was his strategy from begining and during this time he still not learn how show real gambling player reactions - His reactions after lose - big wins always same -acting to make funny show - Never acting like real gambler .

And now he work for  N1 company - so if you watching him from beggining is very easy match the puzzle and get simple conclusion .

+  "  Another N1 casino streamer/affiliate doing 50 euro bets full of chat bots and view bots. " -  channel is CasinoMoLive on twitch

Its only case of time and you see  several new   Highrollers -  come out of nowhere and streaming  and playing at N1/LaddyHammer/Maneki  casino with 50€ bets for Spin.

And Company never  tell you true abaout  Roshtein beacouse he is their top affiliate  and he make them huge money so they cant tell you - Yes Roshtein is fake  - beacouse if his affiliate traffic drop  then they lose HUGE potenciale of future earnings from  all  his vievers / begginers who watch him with excited and belive he is legit .

Company N1 already noticed thie unethical bissnes strategy work well for them - ( set up testing player account for streming for Huge affiliate partners like Roshtein ) then   he can show for community for  vievers  every day   High bets 50€ per spin without  risk his own money -  Peoples love  watching Highrolling so  he deliviered high Numbers of new signups   massive traffic + Company  additional converted all this signups  often  with  unethical emailing - " Roshtein win 50.000€ just for 50€ bets - come play with us be like Roshtein "      Its just simple unethical  bissnes strategy to bring traffic nothing more.

 

Well written man, 

 

Would be fun to see him play on Videoslots with 40p bet again ;)

[MrX]

Owner of site     Legend of gambling  ( Source of video with Roshtein exposed himself as fake money streamers  - attacked  with threads against him and his family  -       https://legendofgambling.com/website-shutting-down-on-sept-6th/    sorry for link - (but   his site will be close down soon) ...