Roshtein wins 1 million

[Slots Critic]

Just now, Slotplayer said:

What the heck is being a moderator got anything to do with this discussion? It doesn't give me any more power and my posts are just that, a post just like the next person's posts unless I am saying something in the capacity of a moderator which I haven't done in this topic at all.

So I was wrong but at least I didn't resort to insults, unlike you.

 

 

Apologies if I insulted at all, and also I'm sorry for taking the light away from the debate on Roshtein here. It's easy to get caught up in these conversations, I'll make that my last post in this thread. Thanks!

[Adamski22]

Great finally we all agreed on that rosh is fake as fuck

[siggy]

On 27/04/2021 at 22:36, The Macho Man said:

But some how Roshtein, a guy with 20,000 people watching him everyday for years now is using fake money. Go ask your favorite casinogrounds streamer how much they make from affiliates, then times that by 1000. Then come back here and tell me why Roshtein would need to use fake money. 

Twitch have started deleting new followers when they recognise them as bots, Rosh had 28k new followers removed in 5 days, Sadly they only remove new bot followers.

https://socialblade.com/twitch/user/roshtein/monthly

 

Edited 29 April, 2021 by siggy

[Andreas]

6 hours ago, Slots Critic said:

I think you've hit the key thing there which people don't understand. Lets use NickSlots & SlotSpinner as an example.

- SlotSpinner is live right now with 170 viewers

- If I remember right NickSlots has around 1k viewers or less and does £5 roughly?

To put this into perspective, Roshtein has 20,000 viewers right now and is spinning £50 a spin.

He has over 20x their viewers, all day every day. This will make more traffic to his website and affiliation offers.

You have to remember here each viewer is a potential conversion in affiliation. Each person who signs up to SlotSpinner, NickSlots & Roshteins casino offers and loses money, they'll get 20-50% of the money lost as commission.

This is how basic affiliation works, it's simple - more traffic = more sales. 

Now you couple this with one other huge thing, Roshtein isn't based in the UK - The UKGC casino have really bad bonuses for streamers/people who play big. Roshtein has 400% bonuses on the casinos he plays because he's based in Malta.

This means he has a HUGE advantage over everyone else, because he can even beat the casino due to the deposit bonuses. Anyone depositing with a 100/200% bonus is still going to struggle, but it doesn't matter because the viewers/affiliation covers it. 

This is so simple to understand yet no one talks about it in these discussion threads ever. Like I said I don't know if he's fake or real, but I think he's almost definitely real because the numbers talk for themselves.

There's 20,000 people watching him every single day, can you imagine how many of them will be depositing with his links, losing (as you do at a casino) and giving him 20-50% of his losses?

Nickslots literally seems to have 3 offers on his website and stream for gamblers. Roshtein has GEO IP offers for every country, that'll drive even MORE money to affiliation. Can you imagine how many people watch NickSlots and don't have any sign up links because he only has 3 casinos?

It really is education at this point when gambling and affiliation comes into it. To confirm, Roshtein has some affiliate offers I disagree with (magicalspin for e.g.) so he's no saint. It would be amazing if he just contacted the top 10 forums and verified himself with them to end this discussion once and for all lol. Then we can all go on and enjoy the streams!

Sorry for your second point - I was on good money at the time and the combination of that + Highland Park scotch often leads to irresponsible decisions. I was high rolling a lot for fun and didn't really care if I lost. Looking back, it was a mistake!  I wouldn't be saying that if I hit it big though.

Not to single any streamer out but do you not think it's a bit suspicious that not one single streamer doing €50-200 spins day in and day out does it at an established casino with legitimate and/or local licenses. Casinos where the regular player does not run into issues every other cashout.

Playing hundred euro spins+ on high volatile games puts the casinos in a potential liability of millions of euros - something the likes of Mecca would be able to swallow, but, way less likely, a newly launched brand nobody's heard of and operating out of a postbox would.

You have streamers who've "branched out" from other streaming channels, where they were employees, now doing the same €100+ stakes and at the same casinos. Is it a) reasonable they were paid tens or hundreds of thousands a month to now afford the cashflow volatility such stakes incur? b) small casinos accepting such liability?

I can say for a fact though that affiliation will not cover a) for virtually anyone, especially not a person hired with a wage. If affiliation does not justify liability, one has the answer for b) as well.

[Slots Critic]

47 minutes ago, siggy said:

Twitch have started deleting new followers when they recognise them as bots, Rosh had 28k new followers removed in 5 days, Sadly they only remove new bot followers.

https://socialblade.com/twitch/user/roshtein/monthly

 

I think it affected everyone, check this link. For context, 28k is nothing out of the 7.5million total purge that happened.

 

24 minutes ago, Andreas said:

Not to single any streamer out but do you not think it's a bit suspicious that not one single streamer doing €50-200 spins day in and day out does it at an established casino with legitimate and/or local licenses. Casinos where the regular player does not run into issues every other cashout.

Playing hundred euro spins+ on high volatile games puts the casinos in a potential liability of millions of euros - something the likes of Mecca would be able to swallow, but, way less likely, a newly launched brand nobody's heard of and operating out of a postbox would.

You have streamers who've "branched out" from other streaming channels, where they were employees, now doing the same €100+ stakes and at the same casinos. Is it a) reasonable they were paid tens or hundreds of thousands a month to now afford the cashflow volatility such stakes incur? b) small casinos accepting such liability?

I can say for a fact though that affiliation will not cover a) for virtually anyone, especially not a person hired with a wage. If affiliation does not justify liability, one has the answer for b) as well.

I've seen Rosh do those spins at Leo & N1, where he used to spin. He did them on N1 today even, that's MGA licensed so I don't agree with point 1 - I've seen Rolla do those spins before, and even his mate Hypa I've seen do big spins in that area before, and I would be surprised if his mate made much from affiliation. That's on like 21 or Sky too.

So I'm not sure on point 1 - the second point you've mentioned there is one of the only reasons I have for him potentially being fake. 

From the little I do know about Curacao casinos, I hate from my experience with them. He plays Rosh immortality cube on 400 EU spins (30,000x maximum win) and I've heard on streams before saying there's no max cashout on the Curacao ones he plays at, just maximum daily withdrawals. I think that's a 12M cashout if it hits?

So yeah him promoting Curacao is one of the only things I have against him, I hate those casinos so much. Out of interest what streamer does the 100+ stakes where they used to work? That's quite interesting.

I did take a look to see company information on the ones he promotes, but couldn't see much on the Curacao company register (Bitkingz, Vegaz etc), not my area of expertise but I'm assuming someone else has investigated them for legitimacy before and AskGamblers has them highly rated.

 

 

 

[Adamski22]

20 minutes ago, Slots Critic said:

I think it affected everyone, check this link. For context, 28k is nothing out of the 7.5million total purge that happened.

 

I've seen Rosh do those spins at Leo & N1, where he used to spin. He did them on N1 today even, that's MGA licensed so I don't agree with point 1 - I've seen Rolla do those spins before, and even his mate Hypa I've seen do big spins in that area before, and I would be surprised if his mate made much from affiliation. That's on like 21 or Sky too.

So I'm not sure on point 1 - the second point you've mentioned there is one of the only reasons I have for him potentially being fake. 

From the little I do know about Curacao casinos, I hate from my experience with them. He plays Rosh immortality cube on 400 EU spins (30,000x maximum win) and I've heard on streams before saying there's no max cashout on the Curacao ones he plays at, just maximum daily withdrawals. I think that's a 12M cashout if it hits?

So yeah him promoting Curacao is one of the only things I have against him, I hate those casinos so much. Out of interest what streamer does the 100+ stakes where they used to work? That's quite interesting.

I did take a look to see company information on the ones he promotes, but couldn't see much on the Curacao company register (Bitkingz, Vegaz etc), not my area of expertise but I'm assuming someone else has investigated them for legitimacy before and AskGamblers has them highly rated.

 

 

 

Same Curacao casinos struggle with pay outs for regular players size of 100,200 euros, accusing them for violating some rules ans condition kf the deposit bonus even if you had no bonus, played with raw cash. Yeaah i bet casino allow him to have no max bet, no max cash out and still give him insane deposit bonuses cos they just want him to win and go bankrupt themselves just because rosh is such a great guy.wake up non believers. He is fake, always was, always will be 

[Slots Critic]

3 minutes ago, Adamski22 said:

Same Curacao casinos struggle with pay outs for regular players size of 100,200 euros, accusing them for violating some rules ans condition kf the deposit bonus even if you had no bonus, played with raw cash. Yeaah i bet casino allow him to have no max bet, no max cash out and still give him insane deposit bonuses cos they just want him to win and go bankrupt themselves just because rosh is such a great guy.wake up non believers. He is fake, always was, always will be 

You're painting every Curacao casino with the same brush there, there's some good and there's some bad. How do we know for real he's fake? I think I made a mistake reasoning with you on this one when you end your statement like that. I guess this is a completely pointless topic, some FAQ's are helpful but when someones made their mind up with 0 proof they're completely convinced. 

[dirtystack]

He looks fake, sounds fake, and even looks like he smells fake.

To me that is.

 

 

Edited 30 April, 2021 by dirtystack

[JonnyWalker]

[Mwright1712]

Think the reaction of jumping up and down saying I won a million was totally genuine, like fk it was, nobody could celebrate so boringly in the same monotone voice, zero excitement, I've been more excited flushing a shit from my toilet, surely these casinos can be asked via freedom of information act? 

[Adamski22]

8 hours ago, Slots Critic said:

You're painting every Curacao casino with the same brush there, there's some good and there's some bad. How do we know for real he's fake? I think I made a mistake reasoning with you on this one when you end your statement like that. I guess this is a completely pointless topic, some FAQ's are helpful but when someones made their mind up with 0 proof they're completely convinced. 

What do you mean 0 proof proofs are eveywhere you just dont believe it.

[Slotplayer]

3 hours ago, Mwright1712 said:

Think the reaction of jumping up and down saying I won a million was totally genuine, like fk it was, nobody could celebrate so boringly in the same monotone voice, zero excitement, I've been more excited flushing a shit from my toilet, surely these casinos can be asked via freedom of information act? 

You will probably find that Freedom of Information Acts don't exist in the jurisdictions these casinos operate

[Mwright1712]

22 minutes ago, Slotplayer said:

You will probably find that Freedom of Information Acts don't exist in the jurisdictions these casinos operate

Yeah I wasn't sure how that worked sp 🙂

[anonymousapple]

11 hours ago, Slots Critic said:

I think it affected everyone, check this link. For context, 28k is nothing out of the 7.5million total purge that happened.

 

I've seen Rosh do those spins at Leo & N1, where he used to spin. He did them on N1 today even, that's MGA licensed so I don't agree with point 1 - I've seen Rolla do those spins before, and even his mate Hypa I've seen do big spins in that area before, and I would be surprised if his mate made much from affiliation. That's on like 21 or Sky too.

So I'm not sure on point 1 - the second point you've mentioned there is one of the only reasons I have for him potentially being fake. 

From the little I do know about Curacao casinos, I hate from my experience with them. He plays Rosh immortality cube on 400 EU spins (30,000x maximum win) and I've heard on streams before saying there's no max cashout on the Curacao ones he plays at, just maximum daily withdrawals. I think that's a 12M cashout if it hits?

So yeah him promoting Curacao is one of the only things I have against him, I hate those casinos so much. Out of interest what streamer does the 100+ stakes where they used to work? That's quite interesting.

I did take a look to see company information on the ones he promotes, but couldn't see much on the Curacao company register (Bitkingz, Vegaz etc), not my area of expertise but I'm assuming someone else has investigated them for legitimacy before and AskGamblers has them highly rated.

 

 

 

Just gonna point out Hypalinx does not do affiliations at all. He gambles purely with his own money and doesn't rely on affiliation earnings. The casinos he recommends are direct links and not referral/affiliation links. It's also why i like watching his content because he's as genuine as it gets without being involved with affiliation/promoting casinos.

[Slots Critic]

5 hours ago, Adamski22 said:

What do you mean 0 proof proofs are eveywhere you just dont believe it.

Where? These conversations are insane, once someone has made their mind up you can't convince them. Show one single piece of proof? I've just justified exactly why he could be real in many ways, where is your proof he's fake?

Source: trust me bro

 

3 hours ago, Slotplayer said:

You will probably find that Freedom of Information Acts don't exist in the jurisdictions these casinos operate

+1, these Curacao casinos are horrible for players. I'm glad there's a lot less of them accepting UK players now compared to 2-3 years ago.

 

2 hours ago, anonymousapple said:

Just gonna point out Hypalinx does not do affiliations at all. He gambles purely with his own money and doesn't rely on affiliation earnings. The casinos he recommends are direct links and not referral/affiliation links. It's also why i like watching his content because he's as genuine as it gets without being involved with affiliation/promoting casinos.

Yeah I agree he's one of the most genuine I've seen, didn't know that he didn't even use affiliation!

[asmeister]

I think there are arguments and discussions which can be ....well, "won" and "lost" for  lack of better words. There's also arguments and discussions which make it's participants smarter than before, regardless of "winning" or "losing".

There isn't an argument or discussion to be had with someone who thinks someone spins 100x€ spins day in day out. You might as well go argue with a fucking boulder.

[asmeister]

Also, to those that are genuinely concerned about deposits  and withdrawals and consider them proof, why is that? 

 

[Adamski22]

5 hours ago, Slots Critic said:

Where? These conversations are insane, once someone has made their mind up you can't convince them. Show one single piece of proof? I've just justified exactly why he could be real in many ways, where is your proof he's fake?

Source: trust me bro

 

+1, these Curacao casinos are horrible for players. I'm glad there's a lot less of them accepting UK players now compared to 2-3 years ago.

 

Yeah I agree he's one of the most genuine I've seen, didn't know that he didn't even use affiliation!

How can you explain that when he clicked fun mode the balance was showing same amount as the "real money" mode??!!how come he started to play all btg's, net ents, no limits and other high volatile slots, providers just not long time ago?!!how you can afford to gamble since very begining (like his did) to do 50 euros spins right away(unless you millionerre obviously)).how can you get excited over over  bonus that paid 4 or 5 k win when you spining 50+euros and it takes 100 + spins to get it, like he does,!! He must be retard then though.When started thing called bonus cast, you could see exactly same bonus, paid exactly same amount of  money, rosh saying exactly same words, dressed same way,seems like been editing those bomus casts on two  different bonus cast,how much other evidence is  here on Cg forum?!! Bloody hell if that was and someone accuse me for being fake and Called all these names that people call him i would love to shut everyones mouth by proving that im legitimate streamer and im playing with real, own, money like he is claiming, but not him 

[Slots Critic]

17 hours ago, Adamski22 said:

How can you explain that when he clicked fun mode the balance was showing same amount as the "real money" mode??!!how come he started to play all btg's, net ents, no limits and other high volatile slots, providers just not long time ago?!!how you can afford to gamble since very begining (like his did) to do 50 euros spins right away(unless you millionerre obviously)).how can you get excited over over  bonus that paid 4 or 5 k win when you spining 50+euros and it takes 100 + spins to get it, like he does,!! He must be retard then though.When started thing called bonus cast, you could see exactly same bonus, paid exactly same amount of  money, rosh saying exactly same words, dressed same way,seems like been editing those bomus casts on two  different bonus cast,how much other evidence is  here on Cg forum?!! Bloody hell if that was and someone accuse me for being fake and Called all these names that people call him i would love to shut everyones mouth by proving that im legitimate streamer and im playing with real, own, money like he is claiming, but not him 

 

1. The casino put the link wrong, lol? Easily explainable. It's a basic HTML link...

2. I have no idea what you're on about with Netent and No Limit City.

3. You've just seen me do 100 and 200 spins and I'm not a millionaire, I've explained how already you just don't understand. Listen, he has 20,00 viewers he's getting commissions in affiliation for and a 400% bonus, it's not hard to believe. 

And because you're calling him fake due to the way he dresses, I'll end it there as you clearly cannot be reasoned with.

[Retrikkeri]

If he had 20k viewers his chat would be more crazy, pretty quite for being a stream with 20k viewers. Yes, he has a few real viewers, but not 20K or something in that ballpark.

[Adamski22]

20 minutes ago, Slots Critic said:

 

1. The casino put the link wrong, lol? Easily explainable. It's a basic HTML link...

2. I have no idea what you're on about with Netent and No Limit City.

3. You've just seen me do 100 and 200 spins and I'm not a millionaire, I've explained how already you just don't understand. Listen, he has 20,00 viewers he's getting commissions in affiliation for and a 400% bonus, it's not hard to believe. 

And because you're calling him fake due to the way he dresses, I'll end it there as you clearly cannot be reasoned with.

Once again cos i can see that wont give up even night if roshtein say that he was playing with fake money you wont accept it.I understand that real balance in "fun mode" its a simple mistake that happened just to roshtein and only roshtein ever.😂😂Thats ia also explaining his. Reaction right after this whn he was completley lost face turned red he could say nothing like why, how is that possible and his chat what you can see yourslef went like:fake, fake, scam, scam right away.Next one. Roshtein plays providers like no limit, net ent, btg and all the rest with high volatile slots for not a long time considering he is streaming for quite long time i would say he does it only since good year maybe tiny bit more, how come now he is on all those games, high volatile slots everyday and before for years he never played them at all?!! Come on if you want win and you want to win your life changing money yii gotta play those slots not sticking just to play ngos,or pragmatic,even people in chatt were asking him that byt always ingnore the question,live tables never played them before also.Very suspicious. he is mates with other streamers that somehow also gamble stakes aa big as his, wow they all just millioneres,every day 60k, 50k,tomorrow 90 k deposit.wtf.?!!his vierwers?! 20k.?!!haha nick slots has 20 x less and his chat is way busier,riaheting fallowers are all fake, same as his friends streamers,one minute after they start the stream they have 4.7 k viewers and this number never move by more 200,always, im chat there is like 12 nicknames only,no question about if money is real, about othwr fake streamers cos you getting insta ban, next one, how many spins you did on this stakes mate?!! 2,3 or 7??come on, be real man. 

[Slots Critic]

[The Macho Man]

Don't waste your time with these mouth breathers. The guy above you doesn't even know what the enter key does on his keyboard and probably never had more than $20 in his pocket in his life. Of course Rosh looks fake to him. 

[Adamski22]

7 minutes ago, The Macho Man said:

Don't waste your time with these mouth breathers. The guy above you doesn't even know what the enter key does on his keyboard and probably never had more than $20 in his pocket in his life. Of course Rosh looks fake to him

At least its real $20 🤣🤣🤣booom in your face😂😂😂 Kids go back to watch your fake streamer.maybe rosh will give fake  50k each for licking his asshole,or i wouldnt be surprised if one those trolls in here, trying to defend rosh and his gang is rosh himslef😂😂rosh been exposed totaly million times in here,i get it, i get it, you just can accept it, hard for ya but he is fake.take it or not you cant change it and the fact that you have been watching and getting excited over fake wins and reactions of your ffffffaaake idol,. Done with you boys, simply wont waste no time for you rosh trolls. Ciaooo,goodbye,dowidzenia,so long. 

[OnlineRender]

just here for the banter!