fraudmaud Posted 4 July, 2018 Share Posted 4 July, 2018 This game is pathetic. You will reach level 5. Then it will take thousands of thousands of spins and never active the Wild Swarm mode. And probably when you get it, after a million spins it will be totally shit anyway. Stay away. Play better games like Danger, Queen of Riches, Bonanza for example. You have been warned. Now maybe someone will post a big win of this game to prove I am wrong but well, maybe 1 in 1.000 people actually activate the Wild Swarm without loosing 1 million dollars before. 1 Quote Link to comment
gingerafro Posted 4 July, 2018 Share Posted 4 July, 2018 same with bonanza actually, 15000 spins without bonus. its getting ridiculous ? its like the bonus is deleted from the game even though i have had a couple Gol¨s with plenty caskades. please stay away from rapenanza aswell lol Quote Link to comment
pausefisk Posted 4 July, 2018 Share Posted 4 July, 2018 I agree, wasted tons of spin and cash just to trigger a lousy bonus. i could have reached level 5 mabye 5-6 times in the same time it took to trigger it. what a scam.... 1 Quote Link to comment
gingerafro Posted 4 July, 2018 Share Posted 4 July, 2018 also extra raped, the 50/50 on the gamble does not add up as u lose that gamble 90% of the time. lol Quote Link to comment
SuperSmask Posted 5 July, 2018 Share Posted 5 July, 2018 @fraudmaud its too late for me ? bees are on my brain for a while now! Must have had at lesdt 50 or 60 plus bees in the hive after level 5. Play with caution ? 1 Quote Link to comment
Push Gaming Posted 6 July, 2018 Share Posted 6 July, 2018 @fraudmaud Hi Fraudmaud, Thanks for the feedback on our game, we are sorry that you didn't enjoy it as much as we had hoped. We understand the concerns you have raised about the swarm mode being difficult to achieve however this has to be the case for us to offer the level of payouts which we do when it is reached. The math has been certified and has an RTP of 97.03. Now obviously with these kinds of games, the nature of probability comes into play and some players will achieve the swarm mode faster than others. We again are sorry you didn't enjoy this release from us and we know that its not always possible to please everybody but hopefully this explanation has answered some of your concerns and hopefully you will be able to enjoy the game as on the whole it has been a huge hit with large numbers of our customers. 4 Quote Link to comment
fraudmaud Posted 9 July, 2018 Author Share Posted 9 July, 2018 (edited) On 06/07/2018 at 15:42, Push Gaming said: @fraudmaud Hi Fraudmaud, Thanks for the feedback on our game, we are sorry that you didn't enjoy it as much as we had hoped. We understand the concerns you have raised about the swarm mode being difficult to achieve however this has to be the case for us to offer the level of payouts which we do when it is reached. The math has been certified and has an RTP of 97.03. Now obviously with these kinds of games, the nature of probability comes into play and some players will achieve the swarm mode faster than others. We again are sorry you didn't enjoy this release from us and we know that its not always possible to please everybody but hopefully this explanation has answered some of your concerns and hopefully you will be able to enjoy the game as on the whole it has been a huge hit with large numbers of our customers. I won 100x. I was betting 2 euros for insane amounts of spins and my win was 200 euro during Wild Swarm mode. That is not really good and I will stick to the likes of Danger, Queen of Riches and White Rabbit instead that has huge potentiaaaleee. I am yet to see a 1.000x+ win on Wild Swarm mode on Youtube. Is it even possible? It should be possible with a 10.000x win considering how hard it was to reach the mode. All of my fellow gambling peeps also reporting only 50-100x wins in the mode. No, I don't like this slot and I won't play it again. Neither recommending it to anyone. Play this slot with great caution and low bets if you must play it. Edited 9 July, 2018 by fraudmaud Quote Link to comment
SuperSmask Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 @Push Gaming like the profile pic awesome you're taking the time to comment. Still no swarm mode unfortunately, its really damn difficult to get, but I actually do like the game. There have been some huge hits from this game posted on CG forum 1000x+. Looking forward to my Swarm Mode though. Praying for a good one 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Craig smith Posted 9 July, 2018 Share Posted 9 July, 2018 @Push Gaming welcome on board push gaming. Good to have you here at casinogrounds.?. 1 Quote Link to comment
odin83 Posted 11 July, 2018 Share Posted 11 July, 2018 yes i have now a swarm after 1000 spins still no luck i activeted the swarm 3 times but now its ridiculously how much you need to invest and it seems the other bonusese are also noth coming in that much, i like the game verry much but after this i kinda hate the game ? Quote Link to comment
m0rphaza Posted 16 October, 2018 Share Posted 16 October, 2018 (edited) I didnt do this myself but one guy on YouTube just reached level 5 with 0,2 Pound bet and then switched to 2 pound as soon as the hive was level 5. I think he got like 15 bees before the hive exploded. I accually thought the bonus would be like the Yggdrasil games that they scale to what bet you progressed with. This game has a huge potential. But it's all about the luck. I've had more big hits on this than bonanza for sure. So it's all in the RNG ?? Edited 16 October, 2018 by m0rphaza Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted 16 October, 2018 Share Posted 16 October, 2018 On 04/07/2018 at 22:16, gingerafro said: also extra raped, the 50/50 on the gamble does not add up as u lose that gamble 90% of the time. lol But but but it's 50/50 then 60/40 in your favour according to BTG. Perhaps they can comment and clear that up for us poor souls who have lost thousands on the gamble wheel. @Big Time Gaming official Quote Link to comment
TheManbearpig Posted 16 October, 2018 Share Posted 16 October, 2018 this level 5 its only to keep u playing,u reach it and u think omg its gona be swarm mode its gona be huge!!but it will not,100 bees later u r riped off,u will get wild line in doa sooner than this Quote Link to comment
Big Time Gaming official Posted 17 October, 2018 Share Posted 17 October, 2018 11 hours ago, AyrshireCSC said: But but but it's 50/50 then 60/40 in your favour according to BTG. Perhaps they can comment and clear that up for us poor souls who have lost thousands on the gamble wheel. @Big Time Gaming official This is well documented on here and other forums, what you see is what you get with Extra Chilli - the first gamble is 50/50 and the rest are 60/40 odds on (in your favour). 1 Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted 17 October, 2018 Share Posted 17 October, 2018 2 hours ago, Big Time Gaming official said: This is well documented on here and other forums, what you see is what you get with Extra Chilli - the first gamble is 50/50 and the rest are 60/40 odds on (in your favour). Are there any stats that can be provided to back up this claim? Having played this game extensively in the past on multiple casinos the gamble from 12 to 16 hits perhaps 1 in 4 or 5 times over a large volume of spins. Don't actually disagree much with the first wheel odds. Quote Link to comment
Big Time Gaming official Posted 19 October, 2018 Share Posted 19 October, 2018 There is no dispute in the math it's 60/40 in the players favour on each single spin after the initial spin from 8. What you need to remember is the odds roll. From the first spin to get to 24 is a 1 in 10 chance. However, if you get enough scatters to start at 20 then the single gamble is 60/40 in your favour, these are the hard stats for getting 24 spins: 0.5 x 0.6 x 0.6 x 0.6 = 0.108 or 1 in 10 Quote Link to comment
TheManbearpig Posted 19 October, 2018 Share Posted 19 October, 2018 Ban list,activated swarm mode after over 100 bees jyst for 50x pffff Quote Link to comment
cabzla Posted 19 October, 2018 Share Posted 19 October, 2018 8 hours ago, Big Time Gaming official said: There is no dispute in the math it's 60/40 in the players favour on each single spin after the initial spin from 8. What you need to remember is the odds roll. From the first spin to get to 24 is a 1 in 10 chance. However, if you get enough scatters to start at 20 then the single gamble is 60/40 in your favour, these are the hard stats for getting 24 spins: 0.5 x 0.6 x 0.6 x 0.6 = 0.108 or 1 in 10 even as i know the odds sometimes People just cant believe it. i once lost around 20 buyins all on first gamble. noone got over 12 spins and most lost in 8 to 12. in These Situation you just Start to disbelive the odds See Real 1 Quote Link to comment
Romanleegion Posted 19 October, 2018 Share Posted 19 October, 2018 This is crazyness, but the hard figures are bang on its no surprise that this is a balance destroyer but if you get the chance to release the swarm do you hit a massive return. I know people with 130 + bees in the swarm that when it goes must be a ridiculous hit. Quote Link to comment
BTGKinG Posted 19 October, 2018 Share Posted 19 October, 2018 10 hours ago, Big Time Gaming official said: There is no dispute in the math it's 60/40 in the players favour on each single spin after the initial spin from 8. What you need to remember is the odds roll. From the first spin to get to 24 is a 1 in 10 chance. However, if you get enough scatters to start at 20 then the single gamble is 60/40 in your favour, these are the hard stats for getting 24 spins: 0.5 x 0.6 x 0.6 x 0.6 = 0.108 or 1 in 10 So just to be sure i understand it correct. If i get 8 spins from start, then there is 10% chance i will get 24 spins if i gamble all the way? Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted 19 October, 2018 Share Posted 19 October, 2018 9 minutes ago, BTGKinG said: So just to be sure i understand it correct. If i get 8 spins from start, then there is 10% chance i will get 24 spins if i gamble all the way? Thats what is being said....in reality though...hmm. As I mentioned on the other Chilli thread, RNG has to come into it as well somewhere so its going to be a very complex algorithm. I still think that maths above is completely misleading as it depends surely on other factors such as RNG Quote Link to comment
King93 Posted 19 October, 2018 Share Posted 19 October, 2018 Ive hit Wild swarm whilst playing at just £0.40 spins, it paid £328, but i agree with some comments Bonanza can take hundreds of spins to drop for example i autoplayed my way through some 1000 spins yesterday and the bonus didn't drop, however my balance when starting was at £420 and playing £0.40p spins my balance after the mass autoplays was £365 so i was lucky to only lose £55 from nearly 1000 spins. It sucks how its so hard to bonus but its also great that it doesn't cost you the world to try and get it. 1 Quote Link to comment
Schleem Posted 7 February, 2019 Share Posted 7 February, 2019 1600 spins later (not counting the spins I hade to make to reach the max level) SIXTEEN HUNDRED SPINS. Can you imagine how much money I've been lured in to consuming to trigger this bonus? @Push Gaming First of all, it feels like you lower the drop rate of bees as soon as you reach the max level. Second of all, there is no such indication of the success rate of triggering the wild swarm. I mean is it a fixed number? So after reaching level 5 there is a range between 1-50 bees you have to get to trigger? Or is it a 5% trigger chance as well as a random chance of a bee triggering? I believe some of these questions should (if not even that you are obliged to answer them) be answered Both for your customers sake, but as well for your credability in the community. I've seen you answer in this thread but you didn't adress anyone really. So please Adress me. I've calculated that on average I reach a bee every 5 spins (roughly 1000 spins sample) when I've not maxed out the swarm level. Whereof I only get a bee every 20-25 spins (1600 spins sample) after I've maxed out the swarm level. If this is calculated then I believe you are tricking your audiences? Regards, Schleem 1 Quote Link to comment
Dillosta Posted 7 February, 2019 Share Posted 7 February, 2019 This is the Problem with this collector Slots.Most times it ends disappointing.In fairness I have to say that I tried swarm once with bets from 2-20 euro. Once I hit the final Level it took only 10-15 spins and second bee activated on 10 € stake. Result around 250x. I do not know what I spend to get there but in General Ok ,some nice bonuses inbetween. It is what is but I prefer the non collector Slots.(Thats why I do not like holydiver from the start).In fairnes to PUSH there are People who never won anything on JamminJars but as we all know there is huge potential.Just for some of this megapotent Slots they skip some Players and pay some enormously. I for example never had mor than 200 x on Bonanza and believe me I tried hard;-) Quote Link to comment
fenya38 Posted 7 February, 2019 Share Posted 7 February, 2019 i agree with u, really volatile slot and i dont play it either Quote Link to comment
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