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5 hours ago, dirtystack said:
Proof or ban needed here.
Actually I did, but it was luck. I still used my bot to choose when to play, what to play.
You can ban me. I don't care.
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Hi guys!
I got super interested in these wheel games and I've coded a bot for collecting data about Crazy Time. It's located at https://crazytimebot.live
It gives you special stats about the game - a way more than those existing sites. I know lots of things about this game since I have stored 700k spins in my database. I have a feeling that Evolution doesn't like this bot since it might give some player advantage. So enjoy it as long as it's available.
Two tips for using the bot
1) Bonus distances shows you the spins between each bonus. I've noticed that there are extremely hot and cold streaks in every bonuses. Play only those bonuses that are "active". Red numbers mean that the distance between two bonuses is higher than the average.
2) CT flapper distribution tells you the winning x of each flapper color. You can raise the probability of hitting the highest number by analyzing the current distribution. In example if you notice that the green area covers 50% of the distribution circle and there is a massive win coming, do not choose the green color. I've noticed that this distribution stays quite equal in the short term.
All the stats are 100% correct, but remember it's still the game of luck and you will lose. Although actually I just won 20k from this game by using the bot - so maybe it was my karma for creating this for free!
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3 hours ago, joshnadin said:
Let's be more transparent here Steve.
I said I could pass your information on to people who may be interested.
I also said I would notify you when I had an update. You persisted in sending me messages daily, and got kind of weird, so I no longer had any interest in doing you a favour.Your behaviour here completely validates that you're not someone who I would want to refer to friends to do business with.
Actually I sent you two messages. In both notifying that I updated the site, and asked if you had any updates. It’s really a weird behavioir to block somebody. I wasn’t sending messages every day, but just kept the topic active that we started. Good luck with your business.
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Alright, the bot is available for everyone. It's developed by me (passionate casino enthusiast) with LOOOOVE. More updates coming later. Check it out, play smartly, lose less!!
It's totally free to use, but the data amounts, server loads are quite huge when lots of users. Please, donate if you want to support this project and keep it alive.
Like I said before, it's unique. Gives you a way more info than those existing sites.
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9 minutes ago, Stevej said:
I have finished the bot and it’s running online! I’ll link it to you guys soon. It’s pretty epic.
@joshnadin said he could help monetizing the bot but suddenly he stopped answering messages when I sent him the link and he blocked my private messages. So beware of this scammer guy. So called ”working in business” guy.
Here's the screenshot of the bot! It's modular - built of widgets you can drag and reorder. It will show you a way more information than these existing tracking sites. I'll link it as soon as I've ran few tests.
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I have finished the bot and it’s running online! I’ll link it to you guys soon. It’s pretty epic.
@joshnadin said he could help monetizing the bot but suddenly he stopped answering messages when I sent him the link and he blocked my private messages. So beware of this scammer guy. So called ”working in business” guy.
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On 29/12/2021 at 00:50, teckiwi said:
Ideally the providers could remove all doubt by publically releasing all game round data(all player bets and results) with a large enough sample size(tens of thousands of consecuetive rounds) to see it's it's provably fair with active bets taken into account(ie when large amount of money is stacked on specific numbers). They could even release the video footage as I'm sure it's kept for a long enough period.
I totally agree! So @Evolution Gaming Official, let's do it!?
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2 minutes ago, joshnadin said:
On a side note, that is interesting. If it works well, you could easily monetize that baby, or sell it to an existing casino tracker website. Kudos!
Hmm. I have to think about it. 😁 If you have any tips for that, dm me.
2 minutes ago, joshnadin said:Santa forgot about me again Stevie! Maybe next year! 🎅
I hope he left you something nice under the tree.That's just a cold streak though, it doesn't mean any foul play is at hand. We've been down this road haven't we!
Unlikely doesn't mean impossible, or that something is going on that shouldn't be.Just like when CT has hit three times in a row. 64x64x64 is a one in 262,144 chance! Incredibly unlikely! Far more unlikely than 0.11%, at 0.0003814697265625%, if we're being precise.
Actually it's 54x54x54.
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12 minutes ago, joshnadin said:
Here we go 🙄 Steve enters the the thread with the same delusions.
You have no basis for what you're saying. Apart from your very bias point of view as you self proclaimed that you're tilted with Evo, can you show us all some data or proof that 'only after players drop under 5k it starts giving bonus again?' 🤦♂️
You can even feel free to use the data from the 'bot you created', which appears to do nothing differently than what CasinoScores or Tracksino already does anyway.
Hi Josh! Hopefully all good and you got christmas presents.
Actually the bot gives you more data than Tracksino / Casinoscores. Individual RTPs, RTPs of all collected spins, Crazy Time bonus blue/yellow/green distribution, cold and hot streaks, mobile notifications of big wins and best strategy calculator and what to bet suggestions. It's already running online, but since it's my hobby project I haven't had time to finish it yet. Maybe soon!
Edit: Epiiic. 360 from CT bonus. The odds 0,11%. The bonus has vanished from the wheel. Follow the game and look how it avoids it.
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I used to play this game with my friend. We wanted to have fun, drink few beers and play this game in the evenings, but we noticed that it never give proper wins those "rush hours" when there are lots of players. We always lost our money, I mean always. That was fucking ridiculous and eventually killed all the excitement. Then I got tilted with Evo games and I decided that I quit. I've saved a lots of money. Their games get shittier day by day. They are the most brutal money collecting machines that mankind has built.
I was so interested in these games so I programmed a bot that collects data of Crazy Time. It's running 24/7. At the moment RTP of individual bonus games are CH: 91.2, Pachinco: 81.5, CF: 93.7, CT: 94. As you can see, Pachinco RTP is horrible. It's been between 81-82 now about one year and it never varies at all. All the RTPs stays the same all the time. That already tell that this game is controlled. My bot also shows that there are clear hot and cold streaks and it always repeats the same bonus symbols. At some point I will release it and I hope it helps people to quit these games, because you just can't win. Their games are so fucking greedy and it totally includes the most modern casino engineering. I'm sure it spots the high-bet players and pay big for those who are willing to play a lots of money. You can't go there with 100 dollars and win 100k. It won't let it happen.
Btw I just checked tracksino.com results. Look at how the wheel avoids certain bonuses at certain times. You can calculate the odds for this scenario and like this one (wheel avoiding CT and Pachinco) happens quite often. Only after the amount of players drop under 5k, it starts giving these bonuses again.
It is rigged because it has RTP and they wanna keep it constant also in short-term. It's dodgy as fuck. Never play it.
Edit: Tracksino.com atm: 340 spins from Crazy Time bonus. The odds for that is already 0,17%. It does it almost every day... Then it starts giving it again actively after players drops to keep the odds in a right proportion.
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Hi,
I had a little extra time and I programmed Crazy Time Bot! It collects all kind of cool stats from that game. I'm still developing the bot and adding some cool features in it. I might share the link later on if someone's interested.
RTP for the last 45000 spins (~1 month)
1: 97.1, 2: 96.8, 5: 98, 10: 96.3, Cash Hunt: 91.2, Pachinco: 81.5, Coin Flip: 93.7, Crazy Time: 94
edit: rtp for cash hunt & ct calculated from the average win
In that picture you can see "cold" and "hot" streaks based on the individual live bonus rtps. It's not a good game at all, unfortunately, and you will lose all your money in this game for sure.
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56 minutes ago, hateTINfoils said:
LOL another "no facts gathering" stupid post. Evolution IS operating in Ontario with those operators who HAVE LICENSE, you are playing on casino from Canada who has no license to operate in Ontario.
It actually just shows how COMPLIENT evolution is. They blocked all casino traffic in Canada to follow canada gambling law.
and yet you claim they are rigging games.... quite a contrast here...
Alright, didn’t know that. Have a great day, sir!
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@joshnadin This has nothing do with rigging now, but do you know anything about this? Evolution is no longer working in some provinces in Canada.
"Please note that we have confirmation that Evolution gaming is not available in Ontario Province since October 27th.
The decision was taken by the Ontario authorities and there is nothing we can do." -
2 hours ago, joshnadin said:
This just shows how delusional you really are 😂
Do you honestly not realise that you're in the vast, vast minority of people that believe what you're spouting? 98% of people who are capable of looking at something objectively and making an informed, intelligent decision about something do not believe that anything is rigged. But you're in the 'woke' 2% that knows the truth, right?! Everyone else is in a bubble and naïve!
You keep on your mission to expose the big nasty casinos and game providers that take all your money and don't play fair Stevie! 🙂
Sigh. If you're going to call me a narcissist then at least understand the definition of the word and use it correctly 🙄
If you don't care mate you could have stopped replying long ago. No one is forcing you to reply.
If you don't want to see that the fundamental principle of of the games operate actually are facts, and go and do your own research to understand what you're talking about, I can't help you.
My 'opinion', was clear long ago when I first commented on this thread.I'm not attacking the fact that you've got an addiction or not, addiction is serious issue and nothing to be joked about. But, if your addiction is centred around playing with a certain provider, and you then go on to attack that provider because you've lost a lot of money, you understand why that's rather relevant, right?
It's just like the toxic people in the Crazy Time chat that are horrible towards the hosts, scream that everything is rigged and spam 'magnets' and 'breaks' every time there is a result where they don't win.
Good luck with everything. 👍
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1 hour ago, joshnadin said:
We’re not going to get anywhere Steve. If I have to go out of my way to provide you with the fundamentals of the maths, which you won’t even be able to comprehend anyway, then my efforts would be completely wasted even if I was to do so. You’ll just go off on another, even more outrageous theory. Just like when you finally realised it would be impossible to rig the games without affecting the RTP, you went and came up with a different baseless theory. You’ll never accept it, as you don’t want to do.
If you don’t have the sense to look at the far more likely outcome that there are reasonable explanations for most things in life rather than there being a conspiracy, then you can’t speak to anyone about them being in a bubble.
It takes me around a minute to reply on the forum. It will take me hours of digging out information and data, then many more hours to format that into something presentable.
Judging from your post history on CG, you’ve clearly had a negative experience gambling online and seem to have many key indicators of a gambling issue. For some reason, you seem to be targeting Evo and are on some kind of bizarre crusade against them as you’ve clearly lost a lot of money to live casino games and are feeling some kind of way about it. Even going to the extent of regularly tagging them in your posts to try and get some kind of reaction out of them.
I too am way down over the long term playing all forms of casino games, as is expected. But that doesn’t justify calling things out as rigged, just because you didn’t like your experience.
Just like with Steve, and your friend Jeroen who has had his account deleted, you’ve made up your mind. So again, it’s pointless to continue any form of discussion. Myself and others have contributed some very sensible and logical reasoning as to why it would neither be beneficial or possible for any party involved, but you don’t want to know. You’ll just keep posting more videos of ‘proof’, that are really just videos of unlikely events happening in a game of chance, and further speculation to support your narrative and thinking you’re ‘woke’. I’ll keep explaining why it wouldn’t work, and the cycle will go on forever.
The whole thread became pretty toxic long ago, and I’m sure no one is interested at this point, including myself. But if anyone is interested, they have everyone’s viewpoint to consider, and can make their minds up themselves.
This my last comment here. I still wanna define the word rigging that you understand.
In live casino, a rigged game would mean that the game outcome is performed by rng. Like adding motor to Crazy Time ”analog” wheel: A computer calculates randomly the rng result and motor stops the wheel in that randomly picked number. Rtp would be precisely correct as in the real live version. That itself would be a rigged live game without any other extra layers of manipulation. I don’t have facts that they’re doing that, but now we were talking about if that’s possible. And it is. It turns the whole live game to a slot machine type-of-game. But I know you can’t admit you are wrong - everybody else realizes this though.
edit: now you probably change the direction of the conversation again: ”why would they do that and spent resources doing that etc..” Just stay in the subject. You are wrong. It is possible.
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5 hours ago, joshnadin said:
Facts and opinions are very different things, mate.
Actually you had zero facts and zero maths. Just your opinions. You are still in your bubble. I had my opinions too. Opinions are fine, but they are not facts.
Prove me the maths, don’t just keep repeating that fancy word. Without doing that, you’re as much opinion guy as everybody else.
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9 minutes ago, joshnadin said:
I'm clearly trying to demonstrate to you why I don't want to continue the conversation. And it's not because I'm avoiding anything. It's because nothing constructive or interesting is being added by you.
I'm not trying to affect your emotions mate, it's a little banter. We're all adults, and know better than to get pissed off by what someone has said online.
I don't want to go through the video archives to try and find the clip, it's too time consuming and redundant. That's even if it's uploaded to YouTube.
I don't want to calculate any odds, check my math skills or assumptions. I'm just honestly bored of the whole topic at this point.You're sitting there saying "you've provided a scenario where you can rig things without affecting the RTP". When you blatantly just haven't. Plus, besides the point, is again mathematically impossible. So I can't help but compare you to the pigeon just strutting around like it's won anyway.
It's just getting painful, isn't it Steve? At least for me anyway..
If you prove me it really is mathematically impossible then I happily admit I’m wrong. Until that you can continue doing those smart memes like that one. It was really funny. 🙂
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10 minutes ago, joshnadin said:
Refraining to stay in the conversation until anything of value is added. Big, big difference than avoiding anything you have to say.
Please see above meme for reference ^ 🙂
Again, No you haven't. You've provided a theory. A theory with absolutely zero credibility at that. You've failed to mention how this could be sustainably implemented and work, because it can not.
What you mean is, in coding there aren't many things you can't do, and most things are possible.
But, as I said, I never said it wasn't possible to devise code to see in real time what outcome of the game would pay what out. I could hire someone on Fiverr to do that for me. What I said is impossible, is to implement such a code to benefit every single online casino using that provider. You really need to understand that because every player on every different online casino using the provider at the same time, no code in the world could 'rig' a result that is sustainably profitable across the board to each online casino using that provider. Not to mention the fact that I've previously stated that it would be highly visible in the providers profitability, and be investigated accordingly.
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I must again reference the wise words of Donald Trump above, that is why I can't continue to try and have any kind of intelligent conversation with you.
So now you took the last option and started making memes, calling me idiot etc. Trying to affect my emotions. It all turns against you. It actually takes away the credibility from what you’ve said. It’s like arguing with a teenager.
Instead of doing new donald trump memes you can link the video for Kim video with three times back to back. Let’s calculate the odds and check your math skills and assumptions.
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22 minutes ago, joshnadin said:
Did I say it would be impossible to create software and coding where this could happen? No.
Difficult, but not impossible.
This theory could work if the provider was responsible for paying out the wins, or taking the losses for the game. But they're not. If you can provide me with any kind of reasonable explanation to how this would be implemented across every single casino that uses the same provider, with it consistently being in the benefit of all the casinos using said provider, I'll eat my words. You won't be able to do, because it is again, impossible.
I'm not assuming. I'm using the maths and applying your theories to the real world, where they just do not add up, at all.
Besides this, if your absolutely insane theory was correct, and they had managed to devise a way to keep the RTP in line with what is advertised whilst manipulating profits (mathematically impossible again, by the way, bur for arguments sake), this would clearly show that a game is not operating properly and the expected profit is way, way more than it should be.
Regulators look into this all the time. The vetting process allows them to be able to turn up unannounced, and ask for the books at any time, and see exactly what is happening. If the amount of profit being made was in excess of what was expected, they would be investigated. Not to mention that the code you keep referencing, but we can not see, is also thoroughly vetted for fairness.
But, I forgot that all regulators are also in on the game and corrupt, right? 🙄
I'm not admitting I'm wrong, because I'm not wrong. If you can prove to me that I'm wrong, I'll gladly hold my hands up. You've come up with an extremely wild theory that I've already shown the maths does not work for, you've not provided a scenario alongside proof that works. Just a wild theory.
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Look man, you're really just grasping at straws at this point. You're not going to listen to any logic, rhyme, or reason, no matter what I say. You don't want to know. You could be sent to the Evo studios yourself to get whatever data you wanted to come to a conclusion, and you still wouldn't want to know.
It's no longer interesting for me to continue the conversation as nothing of value is being added, it's just becoming painful. If you want to believe that things are 'rigged', you're entitled to your belief. But I must strongly emphasise that it's your belief.
At least I've been able to back up my statements with the maths behind the game, knowledge of how the games operate, and something of substance that isn't simply a video of a game round with a strange result, or a 'data sample' collected over 14 days by one player that is never going to be accurate or relevant.Peace out.. ✌️
You are avoiding to stay in the conversation.
You are the guy who doesn’t admit you’re wrong. I told a scenario where rigging would work without manipulating rtp while earlier you said it’s impossible. You were wrong: it is possible to rig without manipulating the rtp even though it is difficult. I also have many other really good reasons to rig live games. I can tell, sure.
In coding world there’s not a single thing we can’t do. Everything is possible.
You don’t have to take part of this conversation. It’s totally ok not to answer anymore. Peace!
Edit: Cool for Kim! So what slot and when did it happen? Links. Let’s calculate the probability for that.
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The one last video.
The probability for this scenario is 0,000000015%. I have another video like this from the Evo game.
You can always tell yourself, things just happen. But when you’ve gambled 15 years and experienced similar scenarious yourself, you open your eyes. I don’t care what fucking tinfoil people call me, I really don’t. I don’t just trust people and these games anymore. Maybe I’m right, maybe I’m wrong. Who knows…
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15 minutes ago, joshnadin said:
So now what you're suggesting Steve, is that every online casino is in collusion with game providers to somehow tell them that one of their players is 'new', or not, and is in real time giving that data to the provider to alter the result in their favour?
What happens in the scenario that a high roller has bet on the same result that the 'new' and/or low stake player has bet on? How do the providers then rig the result? What happens when the betting on the game means a drastic loss to one casino using that provider for a spin, but to another means a nice profit? Do the casinos have an agreement that 'you can have this one, and we'll have the next'?
The more you look at what you're suggesting, the more ridiculous it is, and the more the logistics of implementing your wild theories become more and more impossible.
Hey man, I’m a web developer. We have amazing platforms and tools to collect data from every user in our sites. In real time yes. That combined with ai so you basically can do anything if you want. And now I’m saying that it is possible. Nobody has the facts.
You are black and white. Some players win big too, of course. But in slots, this would be super easy to do. In live games it’s possible to count the most profitable combinations for results as well. Computer can calculate it without any latency.
Again, this is not fact. But it is truly possible to do if they want. You don’t see what’s in the code. You just assume everything works like they should work.
You can’t admit that you were wrong. I told a scenario where rigging would work without manipulating rtp - you told it’s impossible.
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6 minutes ago, joshnadin said:
I don't think it's not rigged. I fully well know it's not rigged. 😂
It's mathematically impossible to be rigged.
We've already established with Steve that even his own independent data shows that the games are paying out exactly in line with what the expected RTP is. If a game is paying out exactly as is advertised, how can the house be applying any kind of further unfair advantage, apart from what is already being advertised as the house edge?How are you so unable to look at a video of something happening that is out of the ordinary and just start screaming that everything is rigged, without applying some actual, logical thought process to what you're saying? I don't know why I have to keep telling you that if you do something over, and over again enough times, you are going to experience bizarre results. But that doesn't mean that something is 'rigged', whatever your thought process of 'rigged' actually is.
Like I said the thing with rigging isn’t to manipulate the rtp (or I don’t know but probably they would get caught?)
The game may emphasize giving winnings to players with lower stakes, so it also pays more players or new players. The players with higher stakes lose more. The benefit? The game is constantly gaining new players who at some point go to higher stakes and start losing like crazy. More players, more money. Rtp is correct.
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23 minutes ago, joshnadin said:
14 days from one single player is absolutely nowhere near a large enough sample size to determine any kind of RTP for any game.
The theoretical RTP is calculated over millions and millions of game results, across every single player playing that specific game.
If the person in question had been playing roulette for 6 months, consistently, and he didn't get any results over the stated RTP or his overall RTP was not within a very close margin, then it may be weird.
Yes, of course.
But did you read my comment? On those 14 days he didn’t get a single session over that house edge. All below it. That’s weird, not the rtp of the experiment.
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Guys did you read the real life roulette experiment? It’s in my previous post. I think the result is weird. Even though the experiment was only 14 days, all the results were heavily below that 2,7% house edge. There wasn’t a single day over that house edge.
I’m happily retired from all these games. I’ve lost my faith in the whole casino business.
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I’m sorry but I don’t attach screencaptures of my withdrawals or game round screenshots here etc. It’s something too personal.
I don’t care if I get banned or you don’t believe me. I just wanted to share my application for everybody for free and share my good feelings about the biggest casino win I’ve ever had.