Stevej
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Evolution Gaming - in live casino games this is the "evolution" part you are playing against to
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On 28/11/2023 at 18:42, Skylined87 said:
Honestly, no casino games need any "rigging" - however technical issues may arise time to time like with any technological stuff. Procedures are in place to address these issues. Evolution is a licensed provider (which prevents them from rigging anything) plus the math at the games is made in a way that they'll always get profit out of all bets made - Return To Player.
It's all about how you define "rigging". This provider is licensed for sure. I.e. these wheel games do not have a real analog wheel. Digiwheel creates "live looking games" that runs with some motor system.
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I think many people know that these games have rng behind everything. However CEO itself has said that the wheel games are analog, but this is total bullshit - it's rng behing every single thing, also giving the output for the analog wheel, but they want users believe that it is an "analog wheel".
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I can only find complaints about this company and it's really difficult to find any positive comments about @Evolution Gaming Official. I can't understand how they are still able to run this whole rigged shit system. This company has ruined the whole online casino business.
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Guys, I tell you. These games are not fair in any level. I ran a site for statistics for Evolution Gaming Crazy Time (Crazy Time Bot - https://crazytimebot.live). I closed the site because the game started to go so bad (and I didn't want to pay the server expenses). I have some statistics from the year the launched the game and also stats from this year - the difference is like a night and a day. It's a pyramid schema. Horrible games.
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I became interested, so I got the data from tracksino. I calculated the accurate count of doubles using python, and then performed a cumulative probability analysis.
1month:n = 7524 # number of trialsk = 1013 # number of successesp = 1/6 # probability of success on a single trial
The cumulative probability of getting 1013 or fewer doubles in 7,524 rolls is: 1.0441032956734961e-14I'm pretty sure this is the correct amount of doubles. It's bit low still and quite unlikely event, but I still can't verify if there are no errors in the data, so I just leave it there.
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5 hours ago, IguanaBob said:
I am now completely convinced that the problem is entirely within tracksino's data. At the time I looked it said 0 doubles in last hour, however the Monopoly Live history shows several recent 4 rolls that were in fact 5 rolls, which could only happen with doubles.
Yeah, that seems to be the case. Those stats are completely off. Well, maybe it is legit then!
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5 hours ago, dagreenblazer said:
Let's hope your investigation concludes with these slippery game providers being arrested, as without their evil fixing Monopoly would be a guaranteed investment vehicle.
Relax man.
My opinion is that, in any case, they are not doing anything illegal, it's just that people don't understand how their games work. For me they are not live games.
Let me know if you find a single day in history where the doubles were at least in their average level. That event does not exist in history.
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You can calculate the scenario via python script just simply:
from scipy.stats import binom
# Parameters
n = 7515 # number of trials
k = 479 # number of successes
p = 1/6 # probability of success on a single trial# Calculate cumulative probability
cumulative_prob = binom.cdf(k, n, p)print("The cumulative probability of getting 479 or fewer doubles in 7,515 rolls is:", cumulative_prob)
Result:
The cumulative probability of getting 479 or fewer doubles in 7,515 rolls is: 3.489497726420227e-158And just to remind that if you dive inside that 7515 trials and create sub-sets of it, the doubles seem to be lower in each sub-set
I've checked these: 117 / 1,892 (6.18%), 43 / 809 (5.32%), 19 / 265 (7.17%), 11 / 133 (8.27%), 4 / 74 (5.41%)
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17 hours ago, dagreenblazer said:
Firstly, i still believe 1 month sample size is way too small in terms of analysis.
Secondly, when dice are being rolled you can clearly see the presenter/studio behind the dice - admittedly it's a small little window and often presenter doesn't move across it, but it is always 100% live - the dice are never pre-recorded.
I don't think you understand maths so well, and not being really precise about the details.
Have you ever seen any transparent video running and people "behind that video"?
Although, I don't know if it's a video, but that's technically possible.
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10 hours ago, IguanaBob said:
Can anyone verify that the tracksino values are in fact accurate? The most logical explanation would be that they are not, it makes more sense than Evolution deliberately fudging the dice rolls. If the tracksino values are correct though there's no way that could happen by random chance.
I don't know if they are accurate, but I don't see any reason they would not be. Even if they "missed" some dice throws, why does it only reflect to those doubles being lower? Maybe tracksino wants to manipulate the results, hehe.
Just kidding.
Like you explained in your previous post, this scenario is impossible, and like today if you check last 24 hours you can see those doubles are again way too low. Whatever timeframe you look at in the last month, they are always lower. I'm sure this will keep happening every day until they notice this issue.
I don't know what's the "evolution magic" in this bonus game, but it's not real analog dices. Probably it's still legal, though. One thing is sure, this (bonus) game is rigged, unfortunately.
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3 minutes ago, IguanaBob said:
Normally I wouldn't buy into this, but looking at that, all doubles are lower than 2.77%, (some a lot more) and all non-doubles are higher than 5.54%. That level of discrepancy after nearly 8000 rolls looks mighty suspicious.
Yeah, I agree. And just to underline the fact, that if you try to seek any other timeframe inside that month (at least those timeframes available in tracksino) you can see that those levels stay quite stable in all timeframes, no big changes to up or down. There isn't any variance inside that month.
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15 minutes ago, dagreenblazer said:
Plus the main reason it's not rigged, is because they don't need to..
I was waiting for this comment. 😅
But yeah anyway, how many months with these levels would you see this as acceptable variance?
And you can also change the timeframe inside the month - in each timeframe these doubles are lower. You can see 1 hour, 3 hours, 6 hours etc. All doubles - not just one or two - but all of them are lower in each timeframe. Stats are from tracksino.Just to clarify. Odds for each double is 1/36 = 2.8%
This month: 1x1 = 1.15%, 2x2 = 1.15%, 3x3 = 1.37%, 4x4 = 0.9%, 5x5 = 0.96%, 6x6 = 0.85%.
They are off, a lot! I understand that getting doubles won't give you huge benefit in profits, but that was not my point. I'm more interested if they have real dices there or not.
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8 minutes ago, 780xFTW said:
other outcomes need to be divided by 2 to factor in the single dice results.
nonetheless the double results are too low and it for sure looks rigged cause its all of em
Yes, exactly. Doubles have 1/36 odds, other 2/36 = 1/18.
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Evolution Gaming's Monopoly has a dice feature in the bonus. The stats are off, showing that the dice results are either pre-recorded or controlled some other way. Even though I enjoy playing few of their games, I don't like them calling themselves a live casino and claiming these are "live games".
Look at the image attached. The results are from the last month. I could see some volatility happening here but this is way too off - every single doubles are way lower than the other results. For those who does not know, the doubles will add you an extra dice throw in the bonus game.This current bonus feature is rigged.
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Yes, they use motors as well. Adding motors to the wheels bring many benefits.
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And one more 1000x for today:
https://tracksino.com/w/cdHphY2q9xu0
Check that amazing brake. Nice, but predetermined.
In addition to that, Monopoly has also been paying really well last 24h (i.e. 10x -> 4 rolls bonus). Planets must be in a right position. 🤣
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Yes, my crazytimebot.live tells that today and yesterday it's been giving great winnings multiple times. Lots of 200x,300x and 400x, also 1000x and 5000x. It also means that it will be collecting one - two weeks until it happens again. It's been always like that. Nothing random on those devices. Never play when it's cold.
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Yes, it’s rigged as all of their games and the video is clear as a daylight but still people in this forum don’t believe that or don’t care.
Sad, that it’s not gambling anymore, and that’s why I play online casinos very very rarely nowadays.
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3 minutes ago, dirtystack said:
Btw you can see the numbers under the bit you have crossed out, you should remove the image if you are worried about that.
Nah, it doesn't really matter ... I already got the money.
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1 hour ago, dirtystack said:
No shit you can’t. I knew you would be unable to post any proof.
Always going on about Evolution needing to provide proof their games are not rigged - you can’t even prove your own claims 😂
Pure comedy.
Don’t worry, I’m not a mod and can’t ban anyone.
I don't know what's wrong with you. You seem to have some deeper problems. Are you jealous of my win or my coding skills? I remember you were repeating this same shit when I told in another thread that I have coded this bot. So here's the bot and here's the win. Anything else?
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Although, I don't know if it's a video, but that's technically possible.
Sad and predictable experience of Evolution Gaming
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Posted · Edited by Stevej
Hi,
I recently had an eye-opening experience that confirmed some suspicions I've had for a while regarding Evolution Gaming's live games. I've long believed that these games are unfairly biased against players making large bets. It seems that when high rollers are involved, the games seldom trigger bonuses or high payouts. As a result, I've avoided wagering real money and have stuck to playing with free spins only.
Today, something interesting happened. I signed up at a casino that offered me 20 free spins and won about 8 euros. I moved on to place larger bets on slots and won 3,000 euros. However, I soon discovered that the maximum cashout for winnings from free spins was only 50 euros. Deciding to push my luck, I played max bets on slots and my winnings skyrocketed to ~19,000 euros. I reached out to customer support about this, but their response was as you might expect.
Following this, I decided to conduct a live game experiment with Evolution Gaming's Monopoly. I placed maximum bets on 5, 10, 2 rolls, and 4 rolls (750, 500, 250 and 100 euros). As soon as I started betting, the game consistently landed on the lowest outcomes—1s and 2s. Interestingly, the moment I stopped betting, the outcomes shifted to 10 and 2 rolls bonus. This was exactly the biased behavior I had anticipated. I've seen this happening to streamers multiple times back then when someone still wanted to play these games.
Despite this, I still have a balance of 10,000 euros, which I consider "real money," and I plan to continue this experiment.
@Evolution Gaming Official