Roshtein wins 1 million

[Adamski22]

6 hours ago, TheGreatOne said:

Content? Not having to do 20 deposits on a daily base to get a decent balance to play with? He will cashout the 1 million once he dropped down to that amount. 

Content?!! 😂😂😂U cant be serious saying that nonse!!! 🤣🤣Please say you are just having a laugh 

[TheGreatOne]

3 hours ago, the_68 said:

People, people. We will never agree on this. I know what I think, actually I know it to be true. But I won't post it on here because it just heats up the chat.

Watch whoever you want and believe what you want  I hope you all have a great day, and stay healthy! Ofc. you are free to discuss this topic as long as you stick to T&C. We wont ban people for having an opinion. 

 

I guess you enjoy watching the casinoground streamer. I think watching paint dry is more exciting. And based on the numbers, a lot of people agree with me

Edited 27 April, 2021 by TheGreatOne

[Igor96]

Rostein is making multiple fakes in order to defend himself from reality lmao

[dirtystack]

Can you imagine a legitimate slot streamer not streaming DOA2 at release?

 

 

[Kowita]

8 minutes ago, TheGreatOne said:

I guess you enjoy watching the casinoground streamer. I think watching paint dry is more exciting. And based on the numbers, a lot of people agree with me

Did you really decide to make this account in 2019 just so you could defend Roshtein or what? You only reply to posts about him and fake money streamers. Why are you here if you don't find CasinoGrounds streamers interesting? 

[the_68]

9 minutes ago, TheGreatOne said:

I guess you enjoy watching the casinoground streamer. I think watching paint dry is more exciting. And based on the numbers, a lot of people agree with me

You are free to guess. 

[OnlyASpin]

5 hours ago, The Macho Man said:

These guys don't get it. Don't try explaining to them.

Rosh has been the top gambling streamer for how many years now? The guy doesn't even have a sub button or accept donos, nobody on his team does. Rosh in all the year's he's done this has probably made millions ofF his affiliates alone, not including any casino contracts he might get where he gets paid to play at certain casinos. 

1 million dollars to rosh isn't going to change his lifestyle. But 1 million dollars online makes his job a lot easier. At the end of the day Rosh is an entertainer. You don't become a 20,000 a day streamer by cashing out every time you make $50 profit. Most of you are degenerate gamblers, you should know how it works by now. 1 million to rosh is probably like $1000 to you. Is $1000 going to change your life? for most of you probably not. And if you had a stream to run and your stakes were 0.50 cents a spin, that's a lot of content for your stream for the next week or more. Or if you wanted to be really entertaining that $1000 lets you do more crazy things for your stream to keep people entertained. Same thing applies to Rosh here just on a bigger scale. 

There's too many people here with their head stuck in the sand with broke person mentality. (THERES NO WAY HES LEGIT BECAUSE I WOULD OF CASHED OUT THAT MILLION A LONG TIME AGO). 

 

Pull your tongue out of his chocolate lane boi

[TheGreatOne]

24 minutes ago, Kowita said:

Did you really decide to make this account in 2019 just so you could defend Roshtein or what? You only reply to posts about him and fake money streamers. Why are you here if you don't find CasinoGrounds streamers interesting? 

Because these kinda topics are pretty amusing. 

[The Macho Man]

3 hours ago, Igor96 said:

Guy's rich? In which planet?

Rostein actually made a fake account to defend himself lmao.

My grandmother doesn't know what online gambling is but i showed her a rostein video and she said it's fake.

Ur just another rly crazy guy that believes this shet. Maybe some dar ur gonna win his 10€ giveaway.

 

Good luck

oh you showed your grandmother and she said its fake. Case closed everyone. 

[The Macho Man]

This is the reason why Rosh doesn't even bother responding to anyone like the people in this thread anymore. It's never enough. People will believe what they want to be, Ignorance is bliss as they say...

But its easy to see the people here who have no clue what kind of money is in the gambling industry. You think your favorite streamer makes their living from their casino winnings? The entire point of a casino stream is to provide entertainment, better entertainment draws in more people which leads to more referrals which means more money. Pretty easy to follow right?

But some how Roshtein, a guy with 20,000 people watching him everyday for years now is using fake money. Go ask your favorite casinogrounds streamer how much they make from affiliates, then times that by 1000. Then come back here and tell me why Roshtein would need to use fake money. 

[Adamski22]

19 hours ago, The Macho Man said:

These guys don't get it. Don't try explaining to them.

Rosh has been the top gambling streamer for how many years now? The guy doesn't even have a sub button or accept donos, nobody on his team does. Rosh in all the year's he's done this has probably made millions ofF his affiliates alone, not including any casino contracts he might get where he gets paid to play at certain casinos. 

1 million dollars to rosh isn't going to change his lifestyle. But 1 million dollars online makes his job a lot easier. At the end of the day Rosh is an entertainer. You don't become a 20,000 a day streamer by cashing out every time you make $50 profit. Most of you are degenerate gamblers, you should know how it works by now. 1 million to rosh is probably like $1000 to you. Is $1000 going to change your life? for most of you probably not. And if you had a stream to run and your stakes were 0.50 cents a spin, that's a lot of content for your stream for the next week or more. Or if you wanted to be really entertaining that $1000 lets you do more crazy things for your stream to keep people entertained. Same thing applies to Rosh here just on a bigger scale. 

There's too many people here with their head stuck in the sand with broke person mentality. (THERES NO WAY HES LEGIT BECAUSE I WOULD OF CASHED OUT THAT MILLION A LONG TIME AGO). 

 

Lie detected - sub button

[TheGreatOne]

18 hours ago, Adamski22 said:

Lie detected - sub button

Fake news detected. Thats not even his Youtube channel. He doesnt do anything with youtube anymore, for years. 

[Adamski22]

18 minutes ago, TheGreatOne said:

Fake news detected. Thats not even his Youtube channel. He doesnt do anything with youtube anymore, for years. 

Any proof of that or is that just what your master rosh said?!!what i see is channel called "ROSHTEIN HIGHLIGHTS MOMENTS" whos channel is it then?!! His or his biggest ass licker,fan that is so in love with him that decide to open a youtube channel just to promote rosh??? Obviosly rosh is fully aware of that i has nothing against someine making money on his content i guess?! 😂😂😂The best thing about Rosh and his fans like you for instance is that you all lying that much all the time, denying reality,that you starting to get lost in your own lies and y'll exposing yourslef more and more, showing real face (which quite impossible for you guys btw.i mean to be real). Stop pretending guys and life be easier for you😉enjoy ur afternoon 

[TheGreatOne]

18 minutes ago, Adamski22 said:

Any proof of that or is that just what your master rosh said?!!what i see is channel called "ROSHTEIN HIGHLIGHTS MOMENTS" whos channel is it then?!! His or his biggest ass licker,fan that is so in love with him that decide to open a youtube channel just to promote rosh??? Obviosly rosh is fully aware of that i has nothing against someine making money on his content i guess?! 😂😂😂The best thing about Rosh and his fans like you for instance is that you all lying that much all the time, denying reality,that you starting to get lost in your own lies and y'll exposing yourslef more and more, showing real face (which quite impossible for you guys btw.i mean to be real). Stop pretending guys and life be easier for you😉enjoy ur afternoon 

Jesus dude, are you okay? You ask for prove that its not his channel. Well its pretty obvious. Bad grammar in the description, and casino links that he doesnt even promote. But oh well. So we are lying. So where is the prove we do? 

[Slots Critic]

Out of interest since this is a really common topic, if anyone has a chance out of the people saying he's fake - can you tell me:

1. Where the proof is.

2. Which streamer you think is real (I'll say why I'm asking).

I'm new to this forum and I watch Roshtein often (as well as many other streamers) and this is the first time I've joined one of these discussions, it's a very interesting subject and watching him play the way he does will provoke discussion but can anyone actually give proof why he's fake? Genuine question.

To clarify, I think he's real but it's an important discussion to have when affiliation & gambling is involved.

Edited 29 April, 2021 by Slots Critic

[Natb0412]

8 minutes ago, Slots Critic said:

Out of interest since this is a really common topic, if anyone has a chance out of the people saying he's fake - can you tell me:

1. Where the proof is.

2. Which streamer you think is real (I'll say why I'm asking).

I'm new to this forum and I watch Roshtein often (as well as many other streamers) and this is the first time I've joined one of these discussions, it's a very interesting subject and watching him play the way he does will provoke discussion but can anyone actually give proof why he's fake? Genuine question.

To clarify, I think he's real but it's an important discussion to have when affiliation & gambling is involved.

Because after all these years he is still playing with insane amounts of money, which unless you are a straight up millionaire/multimillionaire, is not feasible to play with.

Constantly playing 50 euro bets is almost impossible to keep up. He often plays with balances of well over 50k to 100k+.

Losing 10 of the 50k "deposits" is half a million euros. That is a cold week. Then imagine having a few months cold instead. You will be ruined completely unless you have an infinite source of money, which he clearly has.

He also NEVER plays on any big trustworthy casinos such as Rizk, LeoVegas, Casumo etc... Everything about him just screams fake.

 

Everyone is of course ntitled to their own opinion and this is in no way trying to offend you etc, just my 2 cents about the situation

 

[Slots Critic]

4 minutes ago, Natb0412 said:

Because after all these years he is still playing with insane amounts of money, which unless you are a straight up millionaire/multimillionaire, is not feasible to play with.

Constantly playing 50 euro bets is almost impossible to keep up. He often plays with balances of well over 50k to 100k+.

Losing 10 of the 50k "deposits" is half a million euros. That is a cold week. Then imagine having a few months cold instead. You will be ruined completely unless you have an infinite source of money, which he clearly has.

He also NEVER plays on any big trustworthy casinos such as Rizk, LeoVegas, Casumo etc... Everything about him just screams fake.

 

Everyone is of course ntitled to their own opinion and this is in no way trying to offend you etc, just my 2 cents about the situation

 

1. Which streamer do you think plays with a justifiable amount of money?

2. On casinos, he used to play on LeoVegas, QueenVegas, N1 (MGC licensed) when I used to watch him originally (he's playing on N1 right now). I don't like that he plays on Curacao now, but that's a null point as he did play on them originally.

Yeah no offence here I am also not looking to argue, more debate it intelligently. I am interested in bringing new questions to the table instead of the same old messages flying around. It's good to be unbiased when discussing these things.

Edited 29 April, 2021 by Slots Critic

[Adamski22]

21 hours ago, TheGreatOne said:

Jesus dude, are you okay? You ask for prove that its not his channel. Well its pretty obvious. Bad grammar in the description, and casino links that he doesnt even promote. But oh well. So we are lying. So where is the prove we do? 

Haha please, not his channel obviously,soon you are going to tell me thatts not even him on this videos,owww..btw.. You as big fan of him should d report that asap that someine stealing his content to make money off😂😂😁Off course you are lying all the time,please mate if you seriously dont see him being fake means you need a glasses.who can afford to play this size of stakes?!!! Multimillionaire at least??!! Anyone whos had been playing slots a littlbe bit, knows how money goes playing even stakes sizes of 1,2,3 euros.... You can loose thousands in blink of an eye,how many times something happened on his stream that make him look fake as fooock(the legendary fun mode with his "real balance"for example),how come he became" friends" with "bidule" whos also fake, im french and over here everyone knows who bidule is (nowhere near to be able to afford spinning everyday even on 40 cents per spin, but on streams we can even see 1k spins recently!!!)has been exposed already.there is many more, but you cant accept it cos your world could collapse, believing in someone whos clearly just after your money and laughing at ya watching you keep depositing on his shitty sites, loosing and stuffing  his wallet up.

[Slots Critic]

1 minute ago, Adamski22 said:

Haha please, not his channel obviously,soon you are going to tell me thatts not even him on this videos,owww..btw.. You as big fan of him should d report that asap that someine stealing his content to make money off😂😂😁Off course you are lying all the time,please mate if you seriously dont see him being fake means you need a glasses.who can afford to play this size of stakes?!!! Multimillionaire at least??!! Anyone whos had been playing slots a littlbe bit, knows how money goes playing even stakes sizes of 1,2,3 euros.... You can loose thousands in blink of an eye,how many times something happened on his stream that make him look fake as fooock(the legendary fun mode with his "real balance"for example),how come he became" friends" with "bidule" whos also fake, im french and over here everyone knows who bidule is (nowhere near to be able to afford spinning everyday even on 40 cents per spin, but on streams we can even see 1k spins recently!!!)has been exposed already.there is many more, but you cant accept it cos your world could collapse, believing in someone whos clearly just after your money and laughing at ya watching you keep depositing on his shitty sites, loosing and stuffing  his wallet up.

You do realise how affiliation works, right? Combined with casino bonuses and high popularity of course you can spin that amount.

I'm not a streamer and I've had Bonanza bonus twice on £100 and also span £200 on the game for 20-40 spins before, does that mean I'm fake even though you don't know me? That's while making 0 affiliation money or using no casino bonuses.

[Natb0412]

Just now, Slots Critic said:

1. Which streamer do you think plays with a justifiable amount of money?

2. On casinos, he used to play on LeoVegas, QueenVegas, N1 (MGC licensed) when I used to watch him originally (he's playing on N1 right now). I don't like that he plays on Curacao now, but that's a null point as he did play on them originally.

Yeah no offence here I am also not looking to argue, more debate it intelligently. I am interested in bringing new questions to the table instead of the same old messages flying around. It's good to be unbiased when discussing these things.

If you look at streamers like Kim and Blanco, Slotspinner, Nickslots etc they are fully transparent regarding deposits/withdrawals. I have yet to see one deposit/withdrawal page in Roshteins streams.
they are also playing high stakes ofcourse, but you cant really compare 50 euro bets with 5euro bets, and 10 euro bets if its a good session.

3 minutes ago, Slots Critic said:

You do realise how affiliation works, right? Combined with casino bonuses and high popularity of course you can spin that amount.

I'm not a streamer and I've had Bonanza bonus twice on £100 and also span £200 on the game for 20-40 spins before, does that mean I'm fake even though you don't know me? That's while making 0 affiliation money or using no casino bonuses.

Why in the everloving fuck would you play on 100 pound spins? That's just really irresponsible imo

[Slots Critic]

1 minute ago, Natb0412 said:

If you look at streamers like Kim and Blanco, Slotspinner, Nickslots etc they are fully transparent regarding deposits/withdrawals. I have yet to see one deposit/withdrawal page in Roshteins streams.
they are also playing high stakes ofcourse, but you cant really compare 50 euro bets with 5euro bets, and 10 euro bets if its a good session.

I think you've hit the key thing there which people don't understand. Lets use NickSlots & SlotSpinner as an example.

- SlotSpinner is live right now with 170 viewers

- If I remember right NickSlots has around 1k viewers or less and does £5 roughly?

To put this into perspective, Roshtein has 20,000 viewers right now and is spinning £50 a spin.

He has over 20x their viewers, all day every day. This will make more traffic to his website and affiliation offers.

You have to remember here each viewer is a potential conversion in affiliation. Each person who signs up to SlotSpinner, NickSlots & Roshteins casino offers and loses money, they'll get 20-50% of the money lost as commission.

This is how basic affiliation works, it's simple - more traffic = more sales. 

Now you couple this with one other huge thing, Roshtein isn't based in the UK - The UKGC casino have really bad bonuses for streamers/people who play big. Roshtein has 400% bonuses on the casinos he plays because he's based in Malta.

This means he has a HUGE advantage over everyone else, because he can even beat the casino due to the deposit bonuses. Anyone depositing with a 100/200% bonus is still going to struggle, but it doesn't matter because the viewers/affiliation covers it. 

This is so simple to understand yet no one talks about it in these discussion threads ever. Like I said I don't know if he's fake or real, but I think he's almost definitely real because the numbers talk for themselves.

There's 20,000 people watching him every single day, can you imagine how many of them will be depositing with his links, losing (as you do at a casino) and giving him 20-50% of his losses?

Nickslots literally seems to have 3 offers on his website and stream for gamblers. Roshtein has GEO IP offers for every country, that'll drive even MORE money to affiliation. Can you imagine how many people watch NickSlots and don't have any sign up links because he only has 3 casinos?

It really is education at this point when gambling and affiliation comes into it. To confirm, Roshtein has some affiliate offers I disagree with (magicalspin for e.g.) so he's no saint. It would be amazing if he just contacted the top 10 forums and verified himself with them to end this discussion once and for all lol. Then we can all go on and enjoy the streams!

9 minutes ago, Natb0412 said:

If you look at streamers like Kim and Blanco, Slotspinner, Nickslots etc they are fully transparent regarding deposits/withdrawals. I have yet to see one deposit/withdrawal page in Roshteins streams.
they are also playing high stakes ofcourse, but you cant really compare 50 euro bets with 5euro bets, and 10 euro bets if its a good session.

Why in the everloving fuck would you play on 100 pound spins? That's just really irresponsible imo

Sorry for your second point - I was on good money at the time and the combination of that + Highland Park scotch often leads to irresponsible decisions. I was high rolling a lot for fun and didn't really care if I lost. Looking back, it was a mistake!  I wouldn't be saying that if I hit it big though.

[Slots Critic]

The only things in my head which stand out from me thinking 99% he's real because the numbers add up are:

- He plays more Curacao than MGA currently - I hate that but it's where the money is for him so I understand but it just casts shade on the legitimacy.

- His partnership (or at least endorsing with his name) with GameArt, not cool.

Everything else just seems to be solid numbers making sense :S? I'm only defending in great detail because it's the first forum I've posted in and it's a topic I often scream inside my head while reading anonymously. So I'm trying to see if anyone can educate me further the same time with proof or anything which isnt ("He plays with big money!!!! He must be fake! Who can afford that!!!!") 

Edited 29 April, 2021 by Slots Critic

[Natb0412]

2 minutes ago, Slots Critic said:

I think you've hit the key thing there which people don't understand. Lets use NickSlots & SlotSpinner as an example.

- SlotSpinner is live right now with 170 viewers

- If I remember right NickSlots has around 1k viewers or less and does £5 roughly?

To put this into perspective, Roshtein has 20,000 viewers right now and is spinning £50 a spin.

He has over 20x their viewers, all day every day. This will make more traffic to his website and affiliation offers.

You have to remember here each viewer is a potential conversion in affiliation. Each person who signs up to SlotSpinner, NickSlots & Roshteins casino offers and loses money, they'll get 20-50% of the money lost as commission.

This is how basic affiliation works, it's simple - more traffic = more sales. 

Now you couple this with one other huge thing, Roshtein isn't based in the UK - The UKGC casino have really bad bonuses for streamers/people who play big. Roshtein has 400% bonuses on the casinos he plays because he's based in Malta.

This means he has a HUGE advantage over everyone else, because he can even beat the casino due to the deposit bonuses. Anyone depositing with a 100/200% bonus is still going to struggle, but it doesn't matter because the viewers/affiliation covers it. 

This is so simple to understand yet no one talks about it in these discussion threads ever. Like I said I don't know if he's fake or real, but I think he's almost definitely real because the numbers talk for themselves.

There's 20,000 people watching him every single day, can you imagine how many of them will be depositing with his links, losing (as you do at a casino) and giving him 20-50% of his losses?

Nickslots literally seems to have 3 offers on his website and stream for gamblers. Roshtein has GEO IP offers for every country, that'll drive even MORE money to affiliation. Can you imagine how many people watch NickSlots and don't have any sign up links because he only has 3 casinos?

It really is education at this point when gambling and affiliation comes into it. To confirm, Roshtein has some affiliate offers I disagree with (magicalspin for e.g.) so he's no saint. It would be amazing if he just contacted the top 10 forums and verified himself with them to end this discussion once and for all lol. Then we can all go on and enjoy the streams!

I really get your point, and the viewer part is completely correct, and while your theory is feasible i think it is disproved solely by the fact that he isnt transparent at all. He never shows his deposits, or withdrawals. 

IF he was a legit streamer playing with real cash, he would just instantly disprove all i have said by showing transactions. The fact that he doesnt, imo means that he is getting "no-deposit" bonuses from the casino that are not withdrawable.

ALL HE NEEDS TO DO TO PROVE HE IS REAL, IS TO SHOW HIS TRANSACTIONS. And he wont do that.

3 minutes ago, Slots Critic said:

The only things in my head which stand out from me thinking 99% he's real because the numbers add up are:

- He plays more Curacao than MGA currently - I hate that but it's where the money is for him so I understand but it just casts shade on the legitimacy.

- His partnership (or at least endorsing with his name) with GameArt, not cool.

Everything else just seems to be solid numbers making sense :S? I'm only defending in great detail because it's the first forum I've posted in and it's a topic I often scream inside my head while reading anonymously. So I'm trying to see if anyone can educate me further the same time with proof or anything which isnt ("He plays with big money!!!! He must be fake! Who can afford that!!!!") 

Have you ever thought about the numbers he is playing with tho?

You said yourself you have played 100-200 pound spins on bonanza, now imagin doing that day in and out, everyday. It isnt sustainable, even with all the affiliation he is pulling in.

[Slots Critic]

1 minute ago, Natb0412 said:

I really get your point, and the viewer part is completely correct, and while your theory is feasible i think it is disproved solely by the fact that he isnt transparent at all. He never shows his deposits, or withdrawals. 

IF he was a legit streamer playing with real cash, he would just instantly disprove all i have said by showing transactions. The fact that he doesnt, imo means that he is getting "no-deposit" bonuses from the casino that are not withdrawable.

ALL HE NEEDS TO DO TO PROVE HE IS REAL, IS TO SHOW HIS TRANSACTIONS. And he wont do that.

That's the one thing I wish he would do, I agree. That would really end all of these discussions completely - I agree 100%. And that's the only sensible thing I've heard regarding him potentially being fake.

If he is fake and it got out - I would be kicking myself if I was him because his business is entirely profitable as it is with legitimate offers. 

[Natb0412]

Just now, Slots Critic said:

That's the one thing I wish he would do, I agree. That would really end all of these discussions completely - I agree 100%. And that's the only sensible thing I've heard regarding him potentially being fake.

If he is fake and it got out - I would be kicking myself if I was him because his business is entirely profitable as it is with legitimate offers. 

Not really, the casinos he is promoting are mostly dogshit casinos who hook players with "500% bonus", and have super shady terms, max cashout on bonus, a lot of restricted games, and different wagering % etc...