Big win in Auto Roulette. Holy Grail? 100000$ from 2000$

[sandville]

So after my last win big. As mentioned by others I cashed out everything and tried my hand last week in an another casino. I won big. Like really big. I started with 2 grand and went up till 120k at a point. And went down to 100000$. Dare I say holy grail?

[emilerikzon]

congrats!!

[Parker-Rishabh06]

Wow man insane Big big congrats.What u hit buddy

[Peppix222]

Insane! BIG congrats!!  A lot of people would have tilted and probably lose way more, very happy seeing people win this big  

[TheCasinoGuy]

Would love to see some withdrawal proof from your bank account since this is a shady Curacao licensed casino.

[elmo991]

wow thats huge !!

[lovealien]

gratz...

[arthemis99]

must be nice 

[Julian035]

Big congratz

[tjwookie]

wow,hope the casino dont give you any problems.. congrats

[sandville]

Currently they blocked me from playing roulette and are doing security checks. So pretty sure they are using all the delaying tricks they can use

[LetsGiveItASpin]

Big big congrats mate, hope you took it all or at least most home ❤️ 

[sandville]

10 hours ago, TheCasinoGuy said:

Would love to see some withdrawal proof from your bank account since this is a shady Curacao licensed casino.

Okay fingers crossed post 20th il be able to withdraw. The casino had a really great ratings and reviews in Askgamblers. I even raised a complaint when my withdrawal was not processed as per their timeline. But closed it as the casino people asked for additional timeline..

https://www.askgamblers.com/casino-complaints/zenbetting-casino-delaying-payment-of-my-winnings-usd40000

 

[dublinjay]

7 hours ago, sandville said:

Currently they blocked me from playing roulette and are doing security checks. So pretty sure they are using all the delaying tricks they can use

Its good that they atleast blocked the roulette for you while delaying , being a roulette player myself i know how fast the money will disappear when you click cancel withdrawal. 

All being said , i really hope you get the money in full without a mess. Congrats for the huge win again 😊😊

[geggs1]

I had to go to the end of the earth and back to get $800 out last month. Good luck

[dublinjay]

@sandville Have you got your money yet mate ?

[RJ-]

Amazing win, but to be honest I do not understand how people end up on shady online casino's from curacao? 
Really hope u get the withdrawal approved and consider quitting gambling after.  :"D

[aloftown-twitch]

6 hours ago, dublinjay said:

@sandville Have you got your money yet mate ?

From what i have read on his complaint to askgamblers today, he has been playing while waiting for payment so gone against AGCCS Guidelines so his complaint wont be upheld. He has already lost $20k of the $100k balance. This isn't going to end well by the looks of it. The guy needs help. 

4 minutes ago, aloftown-twitch said:

From what i have read on his complaint to askgamblers today, he has been playing while waiting for payment so gone against AGCCS Guidelines so his complaint wont be upheld. He has already lost $20k of the $100k balance. This isn't going to end well by the looks of it. The guy needs help. 

I take that back, he has lost ALL his winnings ($100k) he has said on the Askgamblers complaint. WOW. The guy really needs help. Imagine one day you're looking at what house your going to buy with your 100k win and the next day you are scratting up some change for a chinese takeaway.

[dublinjay]

OMG, I honestly  feel sad for him . It must be really depressing to loose that life changing  sum. Casinos dirty trick worked indeed. 😶

Just read his askgamblers complaint from the link above . He closed  his ticket by asking AG " to kindly not promote those shady Curacao casinos anymore " . Addictions aside , such a nice bloke  , i have seen people going mad over few hundreds but this guy is a gold . 

@sandville Go easy mate ,I know its hard but  try to quit gambling because your expectations are probably very high now and that 100k will never happen again . 

My 2 cents and I wish you all the very best .

[explorer]

59 minutes ago, dublinjay said:

OMG, I honestly  feel sad for him . It must be really depressing to loose that life changing  sum. Casinos dirty trick worked indeed. 😶

In this case, it was justified for the casino to conduct an investigation into the winnings. There have been numerous instances of players cheating at auto/electronic roulette, which is illegal in most jurisdictions and always against T&C. To go on two once-in-a-lifetime roulette winning streaks in auto-roulette within days of each other is going to raise red flags, and I would not expect such an investigation to be concluded within a day or two. This also explains the ban against playing roulette.

Not an endorsement of the casino in question nor an accusation towards the OP, but I don't think the specific actions taken by the casino here were out of line. The only thing the casino could've done that they didn't do is to suspend the OP from playing altogether until the investigation was complete, or lock the withdrawals.

[dublinjay]

12 minutes ago, explorer said:

In this case, it was justified for the casino to conduct an investigation into the winnings. There have been numerous instances of players cheating at auto/electronic roulette, which is illegal in most jurisdictions and always against T&C. To go on two once-in-a-lifetime roulette winning streaks in auto-roulette within days of each other is going to raise red flags, and I would not expect such an investigation to be concluded within a day or two.

Not an endorsement of the casino in question nor an accusation towards the OP, but I don't think the specific actions taken by the casino here were out of line.

Is it really possible to cheat on auto roulettes ? I didn't know that and also I have a feeling if he had played on reputable casinos like leovegas he would have got his winnings within a week or so . 

[TheCasinoGuy]

48 minutes ago, explorer said:

In this case, it was justified for the casino to conduct an investigation into the winnings. There have been numerous instances of players cheating at auto/electronic roulette, which is illegal in most jurisdictions and always against T&C. To go on two once-in-a-lifetime roulette winning streaks in auto-roulette within days of each other is going to raise red flags, and I would not expect such an investigation to be concluded within a day or two. This also explains the ban against playing roulette.

Not an endorsement of the casino in question nor an accusation towards the OP, but I don't think the specific actions taken by the casino here were out of line. The only thing the casino could've done that they didn't do is to suspend the OP from playing altogether until the investigation was complete, or lock the withdrawals.

There is no way to cheat an auto-roulette on the Internet. They're the ones who actually cheat you because auto-roulettes have magnets, and they're not even considered roulette wheels in regulations, they're electronic gaming machines, same as slots.

[explorer]

18 minutes ago, TheCasinoGuy said:

There is no way to cheat an auto-roulette on the Internet. They're the ones who actually cheat you because auto-roulettes have magnets, and they're not even considered roulette wheels in regulations, they're electronic gaming machines, same as slots.

There is no incentive for casinos, gaming device manufacturers, or live casino providers, to have biased equipment. The casino is guaranteed 2.7% GGR margin on roulette (which is much higher than blackjack or baccarat) over the long run, the manufacturer is simply paid on equipment sales, and the live casino provider simply operates the game and doesn't deal with wagers. The coordinated financial investment and effort, let alone risk, that would be required to rig a game would be better spent on customer acquisition/retention. And any person involved in such a conspiracy with the skill and disregard for the law to cheat in favor of the casino, would instead cheat for themselves and take down the house at roulette.

Casinos and live casino providers have countermeasures to prevent cheating, but that doesn't mean people don't cheat.

[dublinjay]

7 minutes ago, explorer said:

There is no incentive for casinos, gaming device manufacturers, or live casino providers, to have biased equipment. The casino is guaranteed 2.7% GGR margin on roulette (which is much higher than blackjack or baccarat) over the long run, the manufacturer is simply paid on equipment sales, and the live casino provider simply operates the game and doesn't deal with wagers. The coordinated financial investment and effort, let alone risk, that would be required to rig a game would be better spent on customer acquisition/retention. And any person involved in such a conspiracy with the skill and disregard for the law to cheat in favor of the casino, would instead cheat for themselves and take down the house at roulette.

Casinos and live casino providers have countermeasures to prevent cheating, but that doesn't mean people don't cheat.

I dont agree with magnets theory myself and also dont agree with this auto roulette cheating mechanisms . Correct me if I am wrong , how is auto roulette( not talking about electronic )  different from live roulette from technology POV ? The only difference i see between them is at the start of the spin i.e. live roulette ball is spun by human and auto roulette ball is automatic from the machine . 

Eventhough I am not sure,  I think evolution would use  the same database schema to register the winning number and the same back end programming language and the codes to retrieve the result and pay the winnings ? 

If one is possible to cheat auto-roulette , he/she would also be able to cheat live roulette too . 

[TheCasinoGuy]

38 minutes ago, explorer said:

There is no incentive for casinos, gaming device manufacturers, or live casino providers, to have biased equipment. The casino is guaranteed 2.7% GGR margin on roulette (which is much higher than blackjack or baccarat) over the long run, the manufacturer is simply paid on equipment sales, and the live casino provider simply operates the game and doesn't deal with wagers. The coordinated financial investment and effort, let alone risk, that would be required to rig a game would be better spent on customer acquisition/retention. And any person involved in such a conspiracy with the skill and disregard for the law to cheat in favor of the casino, would instead cheat for themselves and take down the house at roulette.

Casinos and live casino providers have countermeasures to prevent cheating, but that doesn't mean people don't cheat.

The question is not IF the auto-roulette has magnets or not, it literally works with compressed air and magnets. The number is predetermined after the bets are closed, so when you see the ball spinning and falling it is nothing more than an annimation for show.  This is absolutely not fair to players but it is LEGAL.

On paper, the auto-roulettes as I mentioned before are considered electronic gaming machines, they have a setup RTP same as a slot machine. The minimum RTP for these machines by law is 70%, which most landbased casinos use.

As for Evolution Gaming, even their manual roulettes (Immersive Roulette i.e) is rigged with vibrating the ball which was caught many times on videos that you can find on Youtube. They're not risking their license because their studios are based in Latvia, no gambling commission from other countries such as UKGC, have the authority to inspect the studios because it's outside their juristiction.