twitteraar Posted 29 June, 2021 Share Posted 29 June, 2021 Hey, I had the following bet: I was wondering why Griezmann's ball (2-1 goal) doesn't count as an assist? Here's a video of the goal (not my channel): Quote Link to comment
damnyouwagering Posted 29 June, 2021 Share Posted 29 June, 2021 I dont get it either, the only thing i can think of is because the goalkeeper touched it?? 1 Quote Link to comment
vanHooff Posted 29 June, 2021 Share Posted 29 June, 2021 (edited) Good question that you definitely should ask to your bookmaker. Bets are usually settled by bookies using data from data companies, good chance that this goal counted as an unassisted goal.(or the bet might just have been settled wrong) Griezmann's shot on goal was parried by the keeper, then headed in unassisted by Benzema. ( you might want to lookup clips of the goal from different camera angles ) One of the data companies that is used often is Optasports. On their news/blog there used to be an article that was about what counts as football goal assists, but it is no longer available. Maybe you can find it with the wayback machine?http://www.optasports.com/en/news-area/blog-god-assist-me.aspxA According to the website of a bookmaker, the Opta definition of a goal assist is the following. Quote Goal Assist The final touch (pass, pass-come-shot or any other touch) leading to the recipient of the ball scoring a goal. If the final touch (as defined in bold) is deflected by an opposition player, the initiator is only given an assist if the receiving player was the likely intended destination of the touch. If a shot on goal is blocked by an opposition player, is saved by a goalkeeper or hits the woodwork, and a goal is scored directly from the rebound, then an assist is awarded. If a player shoots or passes the ball and forces an opposing player to put the ball in his own net, then an assist is awarded. In the event of a penalty or free-kick, the player earning the penalty or free-kick (by drawing the foul or forcing a handball) is awarded an assist if a goal is directly scored, but not if he takes it himself, in which case no assist is given. Based on that definition, I would surely let the bookmaker know that you think that Griezmann made an assist, and ask the bookmaker how they exactly came to settle your bet as a loss. Thing is, if the bet had been settled as a loss because of a mistake in data, your bet is still a loss, but the bookmaker might be lenient with you. Edited 29 June, 2021 by vanHooff 1 Quote Link to comment
twitteraar Posted 29 June, 2021 Author Share Posted 29 June, 2021 This is the e-mail I received when I asked about it: They used the espn match stats. But it was clearly an assist in my opinion? Quote Link to comment
robert1990 Posted 29 June, 2021 Share Posted 29 June, 2021 It should count as an assist. That is weird Quote Link to comment
twitteraar Posted 29 June, 2021 Author Share Posted 29 June, 2021 (edited) It's fixed. They changed the outcome and I won the bet. Edited 29 June, 2021 by twitteraar 1 Quote Link to comment
vanHooff Posted 29 June, 2021 Share Posted 29 June, 2021 (edited) I would not accept the customer support response as acceptable as the ESPN page is irrelevant. Rizk support are fine people, but in this case not 100% knowledgeable about their own T&C: From the Rizk Sports betting Terms & Conditions:Statistical bets for teams and players (e.g. shots, shots on target, offsides, tackles, assists, passes etc) will be settled with statistics from Opta provided data and according to their definition of the statistics. I would refer them to the Opta provided data and ask to check if the bet has been settled according to Opta provided data. Further, that as far as I know, the Opta definition of an assist is:Goal Assist The final touch (pass, pass-come-shot or any other touch) leading to the recipient of the ball scoring a goal. If the final touch (as defined in bold) is deflected by an opposition player, the initiator is only given an assist if the receiving player was the likely intended destination of the touch.If a shot on goal is blocked by an opposition player, is saved by a goalkeeper or hits the woodwork, and a goal is scored directly from the rebound, then an assist is awarded. So if the bet has been settled according to Opta provided data, you disagree with the data. I would send along the link to the Youtube clip of the goal for kicks. Probably a lost cause but you never know. Sportsbooks have been known for paying out losing bets for publicity reasons or because of leniency in similar cases. 16 minutes ago, twitteraar said: It's fixed. They changed the outcome and I won the bet. BAM! As mentioned in an earlier post in this thread, Rizk support are fine people, miles above industry standard. 👍 Edited 29 June, 2021 by vanHooff 1 Quote Link to comment
Solution twitteraar Posted 29 June, 2021 Author Solution Share Posted 29 June, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, vanHooff said: I would not accept the customer support response as acceptable as the ESPN page is irrelevant.Rizk support are fine people, but in this case not 100% knowledgeable about their own T&C: From the Rizk Sports betting Terms & Conditions:Statistical bets for teams and players (e.g. shots, shots on target, offsides, tackles, assists, passes etc) will be settled with statistics from Opta provided data and according to their definition of the statistics. I would refer them to the Opta provided data and ask to check if the bet has been settled according to Opta provided data. Further, that as far as I know, the Opta definition of an assist is:Goal Assist The final touch (pass, pass-come-shot or any other touch) leading to the recipient of the ball scoring a goal. If the final touch (as defined in bold) is deflected by an opposition player, the initiator is only given an assist if the receiving player was the likely intended destination of the touch.If a shot on goal is blocked by an opposition player, is saved by a goalkeeper or hits the woodwork, and a goal is scored directly from the rebound, then an assist is awarded. So if the bet has been settled according to Opta provided data, you disagree with the data. I would send along the link to the Youtube clip of the goal for kicks. Probably a lost cause but you never know. Sportsbooks have been known for paying out losing bets for publicity reasons or because of leniency in similar cases. Thanks for responding, appreciated! Luckily they fixed it and I received the money. And yep, Rizk support is great! Edited 29 June, 2021 by twitteraar 1 Quote Link to comment
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