joshnadin

At this point, I'm 100% sure that you're delusional. I'm the one going off topic and 'derailing' the thread?! You literally started off your thread quoting that I referred to 'casino scams'. Not once in my post have I mentioned the word scam, or said a single thing about 'casino scams'. The only thing I posted about was crypto casino streamers, but as usual, you went off on your own strange little tangent. Not that your strange little tangent made any sense, also as usual. Your little rant was in now way relevant to what I said. You just saw my name on another thread and got angry again, just like in the other thread where you've managed to make yourself look equally as stupid.

When you say refunded, are they taking the payment and then immediately reversing the transaction back to your bank account? It could also be an issue on the end of your payment provider. Reach out to Live Chat and see if they can shed some more light on the situation. If you can provide us with a bit more detail of what's going on, we might be able to point you in the right direction! 🙂

Aww! What are you getting emotional for, Jeroen? 😂😂😂 Have I hurt your feelings with my application of logic? I know you don't like me. I like you though! You're a consistent source of amusement. It's okay that my contributions bother you as you can't argue with them and they keep making you look stupid. You're doing a good enough job of that yourself though, buddy! 😁 Translation: "I've seen a video of something online, about a topic I know nothing at all about, and using that as undeniable proof that something fits my narrative. Anyone that comes to a reasonable explanation is incorrect!" 🙄

"Cash change! £500 for a stack of ponies! I mean, one mouse! Do you have your player rewards card with you please, Sir?"

Fyfan 🙄 Sometimes, it's hard to detect the sarcasm online! But, as a Brit who is generally sarcastic about everything, I perhaps should have known better.. 😅 Still! A nice educational post for people who might not be aware of how the casino streamers operate. At least that's what I'm going to tell myself. 👀

No crypto casinos are currently available to UK players, and I very much doubt they ever will be. You can't access these sites from within the U.K. without circumventing the geo-restrictions, which is in breach of the Terms of Service. Of course, many people do this using the method we pretty much all know. But, ask yourself if its really worth it. Imagine winning a life changing amount of money and they KYC you to prove your location and you're unable to do so. It would be absolutely devastating. It also regularly happens too. The crypto casinos suddenly care about who you are when you win an amount of money that is noticeable. -- There is a very good reason why crypto casinos are not able to legally operate within the U.K. There is zero regulation and/or protection for players. They generally operate the lower RTP versions of slots. If anything goes wrong, you have no recourse at all and what the casino says, goes. Is there any reason you want to specifically play at a crypto casino @Aviad? I know the U.K. is becoming a bit of a pain in the arse with things like not being able to bonus buy, no auto spins, ridiculous amounts of KYC plus other unhelpful restrictions placed on the online casinos by the UKGC, but there are plenty of reputable casinos available for U.K. players already listed on CasinoGrounds.

Best of luck Mr. Ding Sum! I hope all the run good comes your way! But more than anything, I hope you really enjoy the experience too. It's a once in a lifetime opportunity that so many people would love to be able to take part in. It would be amazing to see you crack Phil Helmuth's pocket aces and set him off on a rant about how much of a terrible player this Swedish streamer guy is! 😂 Really looking forward to watching the episodes when they're available! 😁

Because they're not actually gambling. The whole essence of gambling is risking your own money. If it's completely sponsored funds and they're not putting a penny of their on money on the line, it's just the same as playing games in demo mode. It's also not relatable for the average person. Multi-millionaires can not sustain the level of 'money' these guys put through, never mind the majority of normal people. I find it hilarious that people come into streams like @LetsGiveItASpin and say that €5-€10 bets aren't high rolling because of the expected standard of what crypto streamers have now installed into people, like $25K bonus' buys and $1,000,000 bonus hunt's are normal. You do realise that they don't keep what they 'cash out' though, right? They all have different sponsored deals, but if you think they're making millions from gambling, they're 100% not. Some get to keep a tiny, tiny fraction of what they 'cash out', some get the equivalent to a salary for streaming a particular casino, some get revenue based on the amount of affiliate sign ups they generate, and some, a combination of all three, or even different deals. They're boring. The either dull reactions to winning because they're not actually interested as they don't get to keep any of it, or the clearly over the top acting and screaming is painful to watch. They don't engage with or care about their community. But more than anything, they're just parasites. Praying on vulnerable people by promoting these unregulated crypto casinos and exposing people to potentially harmful, addictive behaviour, when they themselves aren't actually exposing themselves to the same risk as they're not playing with any of their own money. These guys have been seen sitting in the land based casinos in real life playing Blackjack with $100 and not being able to reload. Not that there is anything wrong with that if that is what you can afford to lose comfortably, but what happened to the $1,000,000 bullets, bro? 😉 If you haven't yet, you should check out the YouTube series from Coffeezilla and SomeOrdinaryGamers - This focus' on one particular crypto casino and the streamers and influences affiliated to it, but the exact same principal applies to every affiliated crypto casino streamer out there. I hope the whole thing does come crashing down, then you'll either see the crypto streamers fully disappear, or strangely turn to streaming at regulated casinos at stakes that are an absolute fraction of what they was previously doing, because they will be actually gambling and risking their own cash.

I'm not saying it's about lowering or manipulating the RTP. Even though it is.. The whole point in 'rigging' a game would be to increase the house edge for the casino or provider to make more money. No matter how they would choose to do that, it would always affect the RTP of the game. I'm saying it would be mathematically impossible to alter the game in any way, shape, or form, to increase the house advantage without somehow affecting the RTP of the game. You simply can not do it. If the game is paying out in line with the RTP that is stated, the casino and game operator are not applying any kind of advantage to the house that is not already very clearly shown in the game rules. You do understand that, right? You're not going to explain it to me now, because you can't. You will also not be able to explain it to me in the future. -- You have just given conclusive evidence that directly contradicts your own theory. I don't think we need to continue the conversation.

I just want to clarify that you're actually being serious. You're stating that you've even collected your own independent data to show that games are exactly in line with the stated RTP, but yet the games are somehow still rigged? Please, please, please tell me how you can rig a game to be in any way unfair towards the player if the RTP of that game is in-line with what is clearly advertised? How could a casino be applying any kind of unfair advantage if the maths is clearly showing you that the game is operating how it is advertised? All you're doing is contradicting yourself and providing further evidence against your own theories. I can not wait to hear what your imagination of what 'rigging is'.. 😂 I would be thrilled to hear how operators are rigging games if you, yourself are telling me you're fully aware they're paying out as they should do. Please, go on..

Only two people here are stating to have worked in the industry. I'm not defending anything, I'm applying logic and common sense to a scenario. I don't care if a certain provider is rigged or not. Fuck, I wish it was rigged! The amount of money I could make exposing them would set me up for life. Plus, we know what we're talking about. Do you know how many people are employed by these organisations? Don't tell me that not one person would know the 'truth' and not expose them. No one said you're not allowed to question anything. Questioning things is good, and no one should ever just take things at face value in life. It's when you're getting to the point of questioning gravity in the Evo studios, Steve. It's the absolutely insane accusations and wild theories. When you act like the people who think 5G is a mind control technology, and the people who think the world is flat, you get treated in the same tin foil category. If you'd bother to actually read what I've been saying, I've provided numerous other points apart from this. But, that aside, the fact that they don't need to rig the games is one more sensible point that any of you have made. Not only do they not need to do, it would be the opposite of beneficial to them. We've talked about how the wheel operates, you even asked for the patent which I provided. You had no response. I've told you that because the provider doesn't pay out and it's the casino, that there would be no sustainable formula to rigging the game, but you have no response and don't want to know. You clearly have no idea of what an impossible physical scenario is, do you. There is a huge difference between highly improbable, and impossible. Just like your friend, you have zero understanding of how random events, odds and maths work. We have analysed the event. Not that we need to. You're just focusing on things that don't suit your narrative. Again, just like your friend. You're in no position to call anyone naïve. You keep throwing the word around. The definition of the word is 'showing a lack of experience, wisdom, or judgement.' You have no experience in what you're talking about. You clearly do not understand the topic at all, the nonsense you're spouting shows that. It is 100% clear you have no wisdom, as you're not able to look at a situation from a sensible standpoint and accept that a strange outcome in a game of chance is just that, a strange outcome. But no, it must categorically be rigged. You're unable to apply any kind of reasonable judgement outside the insane train of thought that you have and don't want to know anything that doesn't support your frankly worrying belief. Can we stop throwing naïve around when you're continuously demonstrating you're the definition of the word. Not sorry, but yes. It does in fact work. What the fuck does that even mean? Actually take a minute to read what you've written. It isn't coherent. 'Evolution is not a live casino'. 'The evolution of live casino working like slot machines'. What are you talking about? Gibberish. Absolute gibberish. Once again, you haven't 'noticed' shit. All you've seen is a YouTube video of an improbable event. Of course you will know what's going on under the hood. Anyone that's been gambling for a sustained period of time can analyse their profit and loss and see if it's somewhere in line with the expected RTP of any game. Of course, some people will be over the expected RTP, some people will be under. But out of all those data samples, you will find an average that is extremely close to what you would expect games to operate at, with the RTP they state. Go and ask your online casinos for your personal statistics and prove me wrong. Please.

You're literally the one who brought up my credentials and challenged what I do. It only seems you don't care when the situation doesn't suit your narrative, as usual. There doesn't need to be a huge, long winded, scientific theory as to why it happened. It is just an anomaly. Something pretty weird happened. That's it. "It's 2021 these things happen" - 😂 Honestly man. You're golden. Keep coming up with these, please! You have literally zero basis to quote that anyone is corrupt and people are being paid off. You're actually delusional. Like, to the point where I would recommend you seek medical attention because if you beliefs are genuinely in line with the nonsense you're spewing, I feel sorry for you. Again, the fact you believe there is someone in the studio controlling the outcome and got fired for a ball getting stuck due to a malfunction is absolutely insane. Do you listen to yourself? Are you actually reading what you're writing? No, it's not a normal outcome. Obviously. There is greater than a one in a million chance of it happening. But, that does not mean it's rigged. Just because something out of the ordinary happens doesn't have to mean something is wrong. If you do anything over, and over again enough times, you're going to get some extraordinarily strange results. You have been provided with many logical explanations. You don't want to know about any of them. No amount of logic anyone says will ever get through to you, because you're clearly not capable of any kind of intelligent thought process. The absolute garbage that you keep saying keeps proving time and time again that you have zero understanding of simple maths, zero understanding of odds and probability, zero understanding of how casinos and games work, you know literally nothing about the topic you're so adamant about.

Are you intrigued by my personal life, and sex life Jeroen? Earlier you brough up 'my weenie', and now you're interested in what me and my girlfriend talk about around the dining table? 👀 But seeing as you ask. No! I'd very likely get the look of 'I wish he would shut the fuck up', rather sternly. That's why I thought I'd try and have sensible discussions with like minded gamblers on forums like this. However, it seems a sensible discussion is asking for a little too much. "Field experience"? Weird. I never quoted that phrase once. I can tell English isn't your first language, but come on man, try harder to make a bit of sense! 🙂 Exactly! Finally some sense from you! You can't deny the obvious that there is a perfectly logical explanation and there is no logic behind any casino or operator 'rigging' anything! I'm so glad you're finally starting to see the light, my friend. Hey. I may even bring it up to my girlfriend during dinner that the Tin Foil Hatters are listening to a bit of logic and reason.. 😉

Mate, of course I would. But it has to be actual evidence. Concrete proof that something is off. Not just a video of something strange happening. Believe it or not, I would be the first to expose any shady shit, I'm strongly against anything that isn't completely transparent and open to the player. Before anything, I'm also a player myself, and I absolutely love the gambling community. Okay, you have a point. I could have a biased opinion due to working with some of the brands in question. I get that. But, I have nothing to gain as an independent contractor to defend them. I'm not on the company payroll. As previously stated, I would question anything that I believed to be dishonest. In fact, I regularly do so. You're not in a position to call anyone naïve when your throwing around completely baseless theories and refusing to acknowledge some really simple facts. You've had the opportunity to question me on anything you want, use my inside knowledge to understand how things really work, but all you've done is throw around completely wild theories and spew gibberish without any basis, at all. Look man. It's clear you won't be reasoned with. Your stance on the matter will never change. You're not open to it, and you don't want to consider any perfectly natural and rational explanation. It's just the same as trying to help someone who doesn't want to be helped, it's a waste of time and energy. So again, feel free to throw any actual evidence in my face as soon as you come across it and I'll eat my words and hold my hands up. Until then, you do you buddy.

As I mentioned way back at the beginning, that's because these things happen way more often than you would think. Your exposure to a roulette wheel in a casino over 15 years is nowhere near that of multiple auto-roulette wheels consistently spinning thousands of times, every single day, from different providers. You just can't use that as any kind of basis for what you're saying. Regardless of if I'm in the industry, or have worked with Evo, it's not about getting emotional or being sensitive. It's about common sense and logic. Looking at perfectly reasonable explanations, and you not wanting to know, for whatever reason. I did use paint to crop the image actually! Thanks for noticing! 😁 You can ask me for whatever credentials you want, and I'll be happy to provide them so long as any sensitive information is not shared. But, I can't continue to try and have any form of intelligent conversation with someone who thought a land based casino game has no RTP. That just shows how much you don't understand the topic you're talking about. Everything you've 'contributed' has zero intelligence, sense, or reason behind it. As for categorically denying all form of perfectly reasonable explanation and instead insisting that things must be 'rigged', whatever you think rigged is, I'd say you're the far more likely candidate for taking drugs too often. -- If you come across any actual evidence, data, or sensible theory whatsoever, I'll be happy to continue a discussion with you. Until that point, it's like trying to convince Flat Earthers that they're not bat shit crazy for denying simple science, and all rhyme and reason that de-bunks their bizarre conspiracy theories. I'll leave you all to your circle jerk. Enjoy! 🙂

This guy man.. 😂 You call me stupid. State things like 'what I make will make your weenie shrink', and give it out just as good as you're getting it. Now you want to go and cry to the moderators and report me? What for exactly? Do you not like that I've had a reasonable, logical response to everything that you've said? Hilarious. Don't worry Jeroen, I'll leave you alone and won't make you look any more stupid than what you've already done yourself. What you really mean is since I've been in this thread, and provided logical explanations that you have no conclusive argument against, you don't like it. Sad. Absolutely beyond belief isn't it.

So, being called a 'slave' is implying that I do not get paid at all, or well. Or, that I have no choice in doing what I'm doing. Would you like me to go and paste the link to the official definition for you so you can understand it properly? You do know what a slave is, right? Stating that I get compensated generously for my time was not to show off that I make a certain amount of money. It was to emphasise that the industry leaders value my time, expertise, and knowledge enough to pay me that kind of money to help their business and operations. It was to show that I am in fact not a 'slave'. If you had any form of intelligence or sense you may have realised that. If I wanted to join in your dick swinging contest I would have not removed the hourly rate I get paid from my screenshot. But hey, I should know better by now to not expect anything less from you!

I never disclosed what I earn, or anything to do with my finances. Your fellow tin foil hat wearer wanted to imply I was a 'slave' to casinos, and also implied more than once I don't actually do, what I say I do. So I provided some supporting evidence to contradict that. Wealth is relative to everyone. For some people, £1000 is a lot of money, for others, they spend £500,000 in a day without a thought. When did this turn into a dick swinging contest about how much money someone makes? You have no clue about how much money I have, what investments I have, what assets I own, and I frankly don't want to share that information online. However, from experience, the people that brag about having loads of money and what they make, tend to be broke and just trying to impress others by looking wealthy. But, thanks again for your super invaluable input. 😁

"Slave of the casino." 😂👏 The casinos and game providers (even including Evo) pay me a very generous amount per hour for my expertise, and industry knowledge. They clearly value that I know what I'm talking about. I would hardly say that constitutes being a slave, huh? 😉

You're just spewing gibberish. What you have to say is never very coherent, relevant, or adds any value to whatever point I think you're trying to make. Great that you state that on your website. Stake and Roobet also stated the same thing in their ToS since opening, yet fully well knew the majority of their player base came from locations where they shouldn't be playing from. But, even Roobet has recently introduced software where a VPN will not work. Whereas your affiliated casino has not implemented that. If by now it hasn't sunk in, it's not going to sink in. I'm getting bored or having to very simply explain things to you. No! I haven't actually played for a good few weeks. But, thanks for asking! 😂 Seeing as you seem to care, I did have a very profitable cash game session last week though! Would you like the details? Or, would you like me to stick to the point at hand, which you've asked me to stick to on numerous occasions? 🙂

How else would you like me to clarify what I'm saying any further without literally spelling it out for you? Because the common sense approach clearly didn't work, did it? 🙄 Evolution do not own the patents for the auto-roulette wheel that they use. They pay another company to make the wheel for them. The patent for all variations of Auto Roulette using pressurised air to operate is owned by - https://www.cammegh.com/ You can find the details of what that patent consists of here - https://patents.google.com/patent/EP1613405B1/en

Once again, I don't care what you do with your own time, your own money, and your own website. You're on this forum promoting it. That's the problem. The problem isn't the payment method being crypto. It's the fact that it's shady as fuck, unregulated, and should be avoided at all costs. No one ever said that crypto is an issue. I'd be happy for more mainstream, regulated and legit casinos to start accepting crypto. I just made an account using a VPN from the UK, they gladly accepted me as a player. People with gambling issues that have signed up for such services as GamStop can circumvent those restrictions by doing the same thing. Yes, they're adults making their own choices, but you're facilitating that, and benefiting from that. That makes you trash by coming to a platform and advertising it knowing fully well you'll target those people on here. People can sign up via your affiliate link that don't have gambling issues, get absolutely ripped off and have zero recourse as the casino is completely unregulated. But, you don't tell them that do you? There are numerous ethical issues of you promoting that casino on this platform. I must stress though, no one including me gives a fuck what you do or don't do with your own money and time, because I've had to clarify that to you twice now. Who said you're sponsored or funded? I didn't. No one else did. I don't care. It's not relevant. You seem to be going off on your own tangent.

"Alge Alge!" 😅 Nice hit my man, get in!

Translated: "I want a volatile game with the potential to win really big, without having to experience any of the negative side of the volatility." 😅👀 Nice win buddy! 👏

Go and hire a physicist and give them an unlimited budget, and get them to try and recreate what happened by designing a roulette wheel with magnets, or whatever other technology you want to incorporate. They will tell you it's practically impossible, and you're more likely to recreate the exact same event quicker by spinning the ball as many times as you can until the same thing inevitably happens again by chance. Even after months of trail and error trying to recreate what happened, I can assure you that the same wheel designed with magnets or other result altering technology would not operate naturally on a spin-by-spin basis, and it would be extremely noticeable in the way the ball drops and is guided to a specific number on the wheel. But again, we're missing the most important point here, that game providers do not need to rig their games, and it would actually not be beneficial to them, nor the casinos. We've already established that the game provider does not pay out or take the money from the game result. It's the online casino. I've explained why this would not be sustainable. Myself and others have applied lots of logic as to why this simply wouldn't happen. Yet, you're still here screaming: