acokola Posted 4 September, 2022 Share Posted 4 September, 2022 (edited) Intressting this about RTP.... all the way from bigging when i started to watch Kim he always talked about RTP is the most important and he just told us always look up rtp before playing becourse some casinosites provide the lower version of a game. A good game should have 95+% And now when i see you playing live I see that you and Hampus playing lower versions of RTP on differnt games... Why? AND why should I and the rest of all players choose a casino that you promote that have the sucker version of a game? Are we not worth more? Its almost feels like I got scammed that always belived that Kim told me where i get most back from my gamblings... Thats it and i dont think i will get any good answers. Edited 4 September, 2022 by acokola 1 Quote Link to comment
dispenseri Posted 5 September, 2022 Share Posted 5 September, 2022 I agree with you. Their stated justification is that with a deposit bonus it's still +EV to play 94%s. Why not be even more +EV and stick to higher ones Quote Link to comment
casio Posted 7 September, 2022 Share Posted 7 September, 2022 What games are they playing at lower RTP? Quote Link to comment
acokola Posted 7 September, 2022 Author Share Posted 7 September, 2022 Play and go. Reactoons. Pragmatic. No limit, push gaming etc games idont know becourse long time I saw them check the RTP. But if you go to thoose casinos you can see yourself. Many of the proviters have they slots comming in like 2-5 diffret version of rtp. So you can play like Reactoons on one casino there the game gave 96.2 then you play on a other casino and the game have 94 or 92 if its rely bad casino. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Gamble Posted 7 September, 2022 Share Posted 7 September, 2022 Leo Vegas owns over 50% of Casino Grounds, so when Leo Vegas only had the highest RTP slots it was easy to only play those. Unfortunately, at some point, Leo Vegas stopped thinking about the player first and started lowering the RTP. I would guess it is hard to say No I won't play at Leo Vegas when they own over 50% of the company. Quote Link to comment
LetsGiveItASpin Posted 8 September, 2022 Share Posted 8 September, 2022 I hate low RTP versions, I tried to fight it for a long time but it's simple - not enough players care to make them keep the high RTP versions. As streamers it matters less (because of the deposit bonus) but it still does a tonne of difference in the long run like I've always said. The difference between 96 and 94% isn't 2%, it's 50% because the house edge goes from 4% to 6%. @GambleLeo is one of the few casinos that actually only lowered a few providers and on Leo specifically I try to avoid the low RTP provders. They have no say in where I play, the only thing I tried to push for with them is to keep the high RTP. All the best, Kim 3 Quote Link to comment
flowerkool Posted 9 September, 2022 Share Posted 9 September, 2022 Okay. Ehhhh the whole +EV on 94%. Not in my book. 1000+1000. Non sticky okay that matters. But to fulfill 3.500 spins on a tenner (required 35.000 wagering). That will get you, on average, 3.500*0,60 euro (6% of 10 euro) = 2.100. That’s on average -1.100. Which of course isn’t possible, but means the average likability of wagering completion comes to 47%-ish. I know that volatility is a factor, but i don’t see how playing 94% on its own, can be plus EV with a non sticky 1+1K bonus. I might be off, but that would be a rare delight. Sincerely, Flowerkool Quote Link to comment
me_utube Posted 10 September, 2022 Share Posted 10 September, 2022 only casinos now with 96% are from Curaçao license Quote Link to comment
IguanaBob Posted 10 September, 2022 Share Posted 10 September, 2022 Quote only casinos now with 96% are from Curaçao license Plenty of Scientific games have the 98% Premium bet. A lot of Playtech games are still at 97% 1 Quote Link to comment
OliverCooper Posted 10 September, 2022 Share Posted 10 September, 2022 3 hours ago, IguanaBob said: Plenty of Scientific games have the 98% Premium bet. A lot of Playtech games are still at 97% 98% real? I did`t see percent like this wow! Quote Link to comment
Gamble Posted 11 September, 2022 Share Posted 11 September, 2022 On 08/09/2022 at 04:05, LetsGiveItASpin said: I hate low RTP versions, I tried to fight it for a long time but it's simple - not enough players care to make them keep the high RTP versions. As streamers it matters less (because of the deposit bonus) but it still does a tonne of difference in the long run like I've always said. The difference between 96 and 94% isn't 2%, it's 50% because the house edge goes from 4% to 6%. @GambleLeo is one of the few casinos that actually only lowered a few providers and on Leo specifically I try to avoid the low RTP provders. They have no say in where I play, the only thing I tried to push for with them is to keep the high RTP. All the best, Kim Thank you for clarifying, I don't play at Leo Vegas that much anymore as I try to avoid casinos with lowered RTP games. Quote Link to comment
acokola Posted 12 September, 2022 Author Share Posted 12 September, 2022 The only casinos i find thats have the highest rtp versions of play a go and pragmatic is; PAF they have, no account casino, Prank Casino, Speedy Casino. And also betsson group. And ofcourse swedish goverment svenska spel and Atg but on this site you cant autospin. Also fund this site https://great.com/sv-se/bast-rtp-pa-nya-slots-vecka-26-2022/ In swedish but he write of new slots and check rtp on alot of sites and writes it down. Wery scarefull that some slots and casino really can scame you it you dont look in to rtp. So now I know where to play😃 Quote Link to comment
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