All are fake just saying

[Tobias Euphoria]

All streamers playing on manipulated slots from casinos, earing money and marketing all slots. 8 years of gambling experience neever won anything like a streamer do everyday

[Tombha]

ok, thank you for your input

[joshnadin]

4 hours ago, Tobias Euphoria said:

All streamers playing on manipulated slots from casinos

In order to 'manipulate' a slot, meaning that streamers get a different version of a slot than a regular player, would involve the streamer, online casino, and slot provider working together to achieve this. The logistics of it would be pretty insane. I could go into detail how this simply would not be feasible, but trust me when I tell you no slots from reputable providers are manipulated for streamers.

4 hours ago, Tobias Euphoria said:

earing money and marketing all slots

Well, yes?
Do you think the majority of streamers would want to stream if they didn't generate some kind of revenue to make money and offset some of the cost of streaming? They're not exactly hiding this.

4 hours ago, Tobias Euphoria said:

8 years of gambling experience neever won anything like a streamer do everyday

That's because your exposure to gambling, even over 8 years, is nowhere close to what a steamer will put though.
Sure, we see many, many big wins. But even taking the big wins into consideration, the majority of streamers are still down in terms of profit/loss over the long term. However people watching the stream don't notice this, all they're focused on is the big wins.

Also, streamers get deposit bonus' that me and you are not eligible for. The legit streamers anyway. If you got the same deposit bonus' to increase your bankroll and play time, you would too hit more things like 'streamers do everyday'. Just take a good look around the forum and look at the literal thousands of hits from regular players that also hit massive wins. Of course, they tend to be on a lower stake as the average gambler can not afford to sink thousands into their sessions, but nonetheless the stake multipliers are very clearly there.

[Stevej]

People are fucking naive. Look at these games. All the weird things happening all the time, videos, everything. There are laws and authorities, but there are also billions of cash moving. People do criminal things when lots of money is involved. It makes lot of sense to question these games and how they work.

[Weemonk23]

Not all streamers are legit, we know this but there are some out there.

Unfortunately you have just been unlucky in the 8 years of playing. Gambling is purely luck, going on the right game at the right time. Some of my biggest x wins have come from within 50 spins on a game - over 10,000x DOA2, 5,600x on Rise of Merlin, 5000x Book of Dead and over 8,000x on Tombstone. Had I not gone on the games when I did then I wouldn't have got those wins. It's chance. Yes, the longer you play and more often the higher the chance. 

You really have to vary the games you play rather than continually play the same ones (I am guilty of this) and you need to know when to take the loss rather than chase and move onto another game or call it a day and try the next day.

[blueyescasino]

My best wins surpass several streamers biggest x wins. Jammin 17588x , doa 1 6200x, napoleon 6136x, scudamores super stakes 5000x twice. I’ve had many monster wins. It’s not just the streamers who hit them. 👍

[Kymu]

I spin over 500k times close to million is suppose and biggest one was 3500x. Stop saying it easy to get monster hit cuz its not....

[JollyBhoyJohn7]

[Amma]

100% correct there Rtp doesn't even compare to a normal player it so funny how people defend streamers. 

 

Why do you think they all have to move Malta = they have support from casinos and no problems from government 

Why you think they don't mention skrill anymore = found to be be run by casino managers. 

Why you think they never challenge each other = they all work towards the same goal. 

And that's being able to work for the casinos and not do hard work in the real world they will try anything to convince you they are the same player as you when in fact its manipulated massive 

The Bandit 100k plus on jamming £4 stake or £6 I think and East Coast vs West Coast he hardly plays slots 

Hideous slots bonus buy 37000x Helios fury hardly plays 

 

We normal players put 10x the amount of spins through these machines.

Especially myself as a low stake player max stake is 50p I GO.

Really unless I'm in wager then I might raise the stakes 

Yeah I've had decent hits this year to be honest a few about 4 2000x+ hits a few 1000x + hits loads of 500x 300x 800x the usual 400x all of it nice hits but I'm not getting these 5000x 10000x 20000x and even 50000x + plus like these streamers 

These providers can definitely manipulate a slot I think pragmatic has proven that for everyone it's not hard and it won't be hard to wipe the log either 

Just think Roshtein win still hasn't been added to the Nolimit win boards that 1Mill 

just be careful guys all will come out soon but they have cracked down on concerned players this year massively cause we all woke up at the same time really ⌚

They have Removed all possible words in chat that can be deemed as a threat like casino, skrill, etc normal words they removed fake etc 

 

YouTube isn't all innocent either these guys must be paying youtube massive pay offs to not cause problems for them they have to be 

 

Edited 6 November, 2021 by Amma

[Amma]

Well that's brilliant for you buddy but like we are all saying the max we are hitting is like 3500x if super lucky I'm hitting close to them but not these casino streamers monsters hits. 

 

Casinos are getting are manipulated if its Rtp I'm not sure but not everyone can be wrong 

Sorry mate but like I've said to many others on this forum you could be init for the wrong reason where I'm not.

I don't need friends or whatever you fan boys are init for propaganda whatever I'm not interested just concerned about the average player who enjoys to gamble. 

Edited 6 November, 2021 by Amma

[Amma]

Bro it's not always about money and profits. 

They could be rigging the streamers Rtp for phycological reasons 

Think outside the box it's the next generation target audience for them massively more than anyone could imagine. 

It's free advertising for them basically instead of shedding out millions for 1 Ad ofc they manipulating Rtp 

If a streamer decides to start a channel I guarantee it before 6 month to a year they've hit 5000x 10000x + 

And average players on a 5 year course will hit between 2000x and 3500x that's what everyone has reported and it's what I'm experiencing myself like I said I out 10x the spins through the machines on lower stakes

I consider myself to have crazy luck but all honesty nothing compare to these streamers 30000x + and stuff 

[joshnadin]

5 hours ago, Amma said:

100% correct there Rtp doesn't even compare to a normal player it so funny how people defend streamers. 

You say this, but what evidence or data do you have to back up your claim?
If you would like me to go into the fine details of why 'rigging RTP' for a streamer would be near impossible between the online casino, game provider and streamers account, I'll gladly go into detail with an extremely long winded and boring post with an explanation of how slots work.

1 hour ago, Amma said:

If a streamer decides to start a channel I guarantee it before 6 month to a year they've hit 5000x 10000x + 

And average players on a 5 year course will hit between 2000x and 3500x that's what everyone has reported and it's what I'm experiencing myself like I said I out 10x the spins through the machines on lower stakes

I consider myself to have crazy luck but all honesty nothing compare to these streamers 30000x + and stuff 

You seem to be confusing what RTP actually is, and your perspective of seeing streamers hitting large wins in excess of 2000x, or whatever.

All you're remembering is the big wins. If you actually look at the profit/loss of the vast majority of sessions, you will see that even streamers lose more than they win. That's even with deposit bonus' too which give streamers a huge edge in comparison to the regular player.

1 hour ago, Amma said:

If a streamer decides to start a channel I guarantee it before 6 month to a year they've hit 5000x 10000x + 

Well, yes?
If you was to put as many spins through a slot machine playing daily as most streamers do, it would be extremely unlikely that anyone would not hit a slot win in excess of 5000x. I don't see what point you're trying to make? That is basic maths and probability.

5 hours ago, Amma said:

Why do you think they all have to move Malta = they have support from casinos and no problems from government 

Because in most countries, gambling regulations would prevent them from streaming as much as they are able to do in Malta.
Plus, taxes are better in Malta. You can bonus buy in Malta. They're not required to submit ridiculous source of wealth declarations in Malta. There are many legitimate reasons why I too would choose to move to Malta if I was a streamer.

5 hours ago, Amma said:

Hideous slots bonus buy 37000x Helios fury hardly plays 

I hit a 35000x on my fourth ever Dead or Alive 2 Feature Buy. By the same logic, are you saying that slots are rigged for me too? Or, perhaps it's just random..

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Seriously though, the risk to reward ratio for casinos, streamers and game providers far outweighs what benefit they would gain by rigging anything.
They don't need to do. They get more than enough promotion and exposure without doing so.
There is a very logical explanation for each and every one of your tin foil hat theories, whereas there simply isn't any evidence, data, or example you can show for what you're claiming.

It's honestly so simple.
Basic maths and probability. Once you understand them properly and stop letting your confirmation bias get in the way, it's very easy to see that nothing is 'rigged'. Well, technically all slots and casino games are rigged, they've actually very transparent in telling you that over the long term, you will lose money playing them.

[HampusSolsidan]

2 hours ago, Amma said:

Bro it's not always about money and profits. 

They could be rigging the streamers Rtp for phycological reasons 

Think outside the box it's the next generation target audience for them massively more than anyone could imagine. 

It's free advertising for them basically instead of shedding out millions for 1 Ad ofc they manipulating Rtp 

If a streamer decides to start a channel I guarantee it before 6 month to a year they've hit 5000x 10000x + 

And average players on a 5 year course will hit between 2000x and 3500x that's what everyone has reported and it's what I'm experiencing myself like I said I out 10x the spins through the machines on lower stakes

I consider myself to have crazy luck but all honesty nothing compare to these streamers 30000x + and stuff 

I've streamed for 8 months this year and not a single 5-10k x on my channel, 

Gambling overall I'm down about 80-100k this year, so i wonder when they will start rigging my rtp.

 

A streamer usually players for 6+ hours each day which is a lot more then frequent player does, so ofc big wins will come more often.

 

[Svenix]

On 06/11/2021 at 23:38, HampusSolsidan said:

Gambling overall I'm down about 80-100k this year, so i wonder when they will start rigging my rtp.

Don’t worry mate. Pair up with Stake or Roobet and you will be up a million before christmas. 

[Svenix]

5 minutes ago, Jeroen83 said:

They would lose their license

I have never understand why people trust MGA so much. Believe me, there is a lot of corruption at Malta and they aren’t based over there without any reason.  

[Make]

1 hour ago, Svenix said:

I have never understand why people trust MGA so much. Believe me, there is a lot of corruption at Malta and they aren’t based over there without any reason.  

Exactly!!

If I design and program a slot machine, how on earth could somebody tell if it’s rigged? If you think that (corrupted) MGA checks out every single line of code you are wrong.

[chips456]

8 years never winning but you still play? Sounds legit 

[Cocorik]

i hate fake streamers that is why i love kim en blanco so much