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  1. Followed a couple of these threads as it is of interest how things have escalated exponentially in the streamer world from people on everyday stakes (£1 or below) to now be pumping multiples of the average annual wage into a single bonus buy (Ayezee's $100k Book of Tut) and pushing to get casinos and providers to remove the max spin cap to go even further. I can't believe for 1 second that the sort of bankroll needed to play this high would have come from non-gambling sources in the first instance. There is just no way someone makes millions (business, getting lucky with Crypto, inheritance) and thinks to try and build a channel by playing full time 40+ hours a week on high roller slots. So the only way this would be funded if it is legit is via the affiliate income. And I think part of the struggle for people to get their heads around that side of things is the lack of transparency from all affiliate streamers. We can speculate but have no definitive idea how much the likes of Kim, Nick, Bandit, Rolla, Craig & Jimbo etc make from their links. The viewer population overwhelmingly accepts that these guys are legit gamblers/business people that are risking cash in the knowledge that they would have to run appallingly badly to not at least break-even after affiliate income - which is a totally legit approach and a business model used fairly across various products. But how much do they haul in? If it a case of £250k pa and a playing eV of -£100k then sure, thinking that the likes of Ayezee, Train, Foss etc can bring so many more players / higher rollers to a casino as to be able to afford the jump from mostly £2-£5 stakes to regular £500-£1,000 stakes seems impossible. But if the Kim, Nick, Bandit etc are all rocking the millionaire lifestyle and bringing in 7 or even 8 figure annual affiliate incomes from their viewer's losses - but are opting to do so at the lowest risk so staying at mid-stake play - then it suddenly doesn't seem as unreasonable that the Crypto players are able to be clearing £1m+ income per month and, in an attempt to be more noticed in a saturated market, are taking a shot that higher stakes will draw more sign-ups and, presumably, draw in some whales. End game they run a bigger -eV from their play and end up making less profit than the trad streamers, but remain legit funded to play these monopoly money stakes that arguably probably shouldn't even exist in order to protect the 99.99999% of people that simply cannot ever afford them. I still struggle to believe that sort of money can be fully legit and wouldn't be surprised if there is some sort of refund scheme in place to remove any risk, but without knowing the income driven by affiliation across a handful of established channels by way of comparison, I could never sit and say the Ayezee crowd are definitely pulling a fake money scam.
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