Jadnici
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On 11/01/2022 at 23:35, joshnadin said:
That's up to you man!
Like I said, I really hope you are successful and I always want to see people win against casinos. They're happy to make money from the players so I won't feel sorry for them losing out on 40K. It's not like they can't afford it!
I don't mean to come across as negative, I've just provided my experience within the industry to you in the most realistic way possible, whilst using case studies and examples of others who have been in the exact same situation.
I know how casinos operate when it comes to things like this, and have even been part of dealing with situations such as this from their perspective.The last thing I will say though is that you fully well know that you took advantage of something working as it shouldn't to your benefit. The media will consider the viewpoint of the casino too, and must give them the opportunity to comment on the situation, where they will be able to say they've stuck to their Terms of Service, which they have. As heart-breaking as thinking you are going to get 40K is, you've not been treated unfairly or lost out on anything.
As previously mentioned, if you would have tried cashing out much lower amounts and staying under the radar, you likely would have gotten away with it for a good while. Once they've paid you, they can't legally make you give it back. They could ask, but legally you could just say no.
It's the same principal as walking into a physical shop and seeing a Rolex priced at $10 which you know is worth $10,000.
You take it to the cashier to try and pay for it, and if they let you have it at that price, cool. The transaction has taken place and an agreement was formed. However, if they notice that something is wrong and it shouldn't be the way it is, they don't have any obligation to honour a clear mistake at a point where it can be rectified before the transaction is completed.But, best of luck mate!
Do you have some examples like this because all I can find on internet are jackpot glitches
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7 minutes ago, joshnadin said:
They don't have a version to show off wins.
Look, we could dance around all day about 'what ifs' but the same end result is reached in every one of them.
A quick Google about similar and/or the exact same thing happening will show you this.I think you should raise a complaint and try your best to get the money and would be super happy for you if you did!
Do I think you have less than a 1% chance of being successful? Yes. But, you won't lose anything from trying.
In terms of getting legal advice to try and claim against them, I would advise against it as you'll be investing money into something where you're extremely likely to not get anything back. But of course, I'm not telling you what to do with your money nor provide any financial advice. So that's up to you.If I dont manage to get that money I will try to claim other wins and if that is not successful u always have newspaper to atleast ruin their reputation in someway.
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15 minutes ago, joshnadin said:
There would be clearly something wrong with the coding of the game, and/or a bug which the game provider would be able to show correlating to each bet you have made.
Plus, they could show that that the game was paying out at a ridiculous 1000% RTP or something, whilst showing evidence of a time where the game operating 'correctly' in comparison to validate that there was an error.
There are numerous different ways to show that the game was not operating as intended for the period of time you were playing.
But, common sense more than anything.
I don't even need to see the game logs to tell you that something was wrong, and the game shouldn't have acted as it did. Any regulator will also come to the same conclusion and come back to the most important term and condition of every casino game - as previously stated, 'malfunction voids all pays and plays'.But lets say what if they had like that version of game that is made to pay to show of wins. What then if they fucked up there that isnt mulfunction.
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4 minutes ago, joshnadin said:
No, they can't. Because the game logs from the provider will show when the game was, and wasn't working correctly. They will be able to provide this in the event that a complaint is made and an investigation is needed.
Also, it's clear that the malfunction caused the game to payout much more than it should have done. Not that it was taking more money than the expected RTP.
I get what you're saying, but the casino and provider are fully covered from events such as this.What would game logs show different when game is working or not working properly?
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3 minutes ago, joshnadin said:
They will be going though your entire bet history and looking at what money came from where, and should allow you to keep a any portion of your money that you had that didn't come from the proceeds of the game that was not operating correctly. They will also take into consideration if you would have had the money to bet on the other games if you didn't have the proceeds from said game, plus some other factors.
Due to this being time intensive, this is also likely a reason why things are taking so long.
This does depend on them being a reputable casino with a good license though, if its a Curacao licensed casino or a crypto-casino, things may work out differently as they know there's pretty much nothing you can do in terms of recourse.
So if game malfunctioned all the people who ever played that game on that site can comeback and claim that game wasnt working properly when they lost money right? How could they prove it worked properly before, maybe everyone lost few hands and didnt bother playing it anymore?
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11 minutes ago, joshnadin said:
The game was clearly not operating as intended, this has happened many times in the past to people and always ends up with the same result.
Every casino game will have written into the game rules that 'malfunction voids all pays and plays'. Essentially meaning that if situations like this happen, the casino are covered to remove any associated winnings from a game that is not operating correctly.
However, in the past people clearly knowing a game is paying out much more than what it should do have been successful in cashing out before the casino have got onto them. This was done by taking advantage of the game by 'winning' small amounts at a time, and not requesting any 'large' cashouts.
Seeing as you span 95 Euros to 40K, before approving the withdrawal the casino will naturally look at your gameplay and will be able to see that something is not right.The casino will not state what the problem is until they absolutely have to do. This is to protect themselves from any potential legal recourse and saying something that will get them in trouble before knowing exactly what happened, and have consulted their legal team in regard to how to approach this.
In previous situations where this has happened, players generally only get their deposit back, and any winnings associated with that specific game that is not operating properly will be void. You may get a small amount of compensation for what's happened.
You can try to fight this with by placing a complaint with the relevant licensing authority or ECOGRA. However, historically this has never been successful. The casinos risk and compliance department and legal team will be writing a very carefully worded email as we speak if they haven't done so already, highlighting that the game was not operating as intended, and why this means that you will unfortunately not get any winnings from it. They will have already contacted the game provider for evidence that the game was faulty to provide if a complaint is made and an investigation happens.
Now there comes part of this where I had played other games after this like roulete and reactonz where I had some big wins. If they trail this as to not pay how can they claim what amount of money was won by playing that broken game and what came from other games. Since that 95e deposit I did not double at first on that game but played some bj first. I should be able to claim those wins from total balance.
"The game was clearly not operating as intended..." So should we all start claiming that games dont work properly when we lose thousands with like 30%-40% rtp on some slots or we should say like they do that rtp% is based around all player. Why wouldnt I claim that here that if I won this much someone lost. Right?
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50 minutes ago, Nordog said:
Usually if the game is malfunctioning, all pays are void. With your description I'm sure that's what happened , since you logged out and in to confirm.
What did I confirm? I confirmed that game is working normaly and it loads and works properly. If game is paying more than 100% RTP its malfunction???? What if they fcked up and had those versions of game that pay too much to show wins for presentation of game. That is not a malfunction but their mistake.
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So on Saturday at 3 am I made a deposit on the casino I wont name here but is one of few that have licence for online gambling under my country laws.
Deposit was 95 euros and 1st game I played was virtual BJ where I managed to 2x my balance. After that I started playing also virtual three card poker (Habanero).
For some unknown reason game was paying like 2 out of 3 hands and side bets were hiting. So that starting balance went from 95 euros to 40 000 euros in span of 5 hours. In that 5 hours I logged out from account like 10 times and closed game like 15 times just to confirm to myself game is working fine.
To clarify things I have played 1200+ hands and every hand in history logs has reference number, date, hour and the outcome of the game with no a single hand malfunctioning.
Now comes 10 am where I am automaticaly logged out of my account and after contacting customer support via email they said that they are having "system upgrade". To this day I am not able to log in. That system upgrade comes out as a lie after 10 emails. Somehow I managed to pull info from them that something was sent to game provider ( Habanero) and that at this moment they cant give me any more information.
Problem for me is that they wont state what is that they think that problem is and wont give me a reason why was my account blocked and didnt offer me a time frame of resolving this.
Now I need advice from you guys. Is it still early to report this to the goverment company that has jurisdiction over casinos or should I wait.
What do I if they dont pay and under what reasons could they claim that I shouldnt be payed my money. Is it to soon to get a lawyer or something?
If anyone is willing to help I would be grateful.
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4 hours ago, joshnadin said:
Me too! 🙂
If you can get any of them on record correcting me, I'll eat my words. Same applies if you can get any non-bias, credible evidence that says otherwise.If that is not what you meant when you stated the dealer purposely stops spinning at a certain point to generate a specific result, just what did you mean?
My version of mind numbing and yours appears to be entirely different.
The fact you have a genuine belief that the game could not be profitable or sustainable to the casino and operator without manipulation, and people need to 'think' about it, when anyone can take the simple maths and probability of how the game operates, write it down on a piece of paper, and see for themselves that it would be the polar opposite of what you believe, is mind numbing to me.But hey, you're entitled to your opinion and belief. I'll stick with the facts! 😉
Good day buddy.
Main reason I mentioned Kim here is because once he said that he is not afraid of magnets on roullete but dealers that can hit specific section on live roulete. Now imagine guy that says that but it s not willing to think about wheels that are manipulated by machine.
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39 minutes ago, joshnadin said:
Are you really quoting a video that’s a restoration of a 1920’s roulette table that was used in some back room gambling den in the U.S. as some kind of validation for your previous comments?
Come on man.
An ancient dodgy roulette table that was used in an era where gambling wasn’t even legal, and definitely not regulated, is a whole different story than saying regulated and licensed providers manipulate results.
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2 hours ago, joshnadin said:
As much as I always feel for people who are affected by gambling issues, this seems like you've just had a negative experience, spat your dummy out, and want to blame everything and everyone else for your actions.
No one has forced you to deposit and play. Especially if you have the belief that the games you're playing are controlled and manipulated and you still play them with that said belief, it just reinforces that what you're saying are complete paranoid delusions.
We've been down the rabbit hole time and time again on this forum why any provider doesn't need to 'rig' their games, and why it would be more detrimental that beneficial to them.Getting salty about it and blaming content creators for what you have chosen to do as a responsible adult, and then going to the extent of saying you're going to report their content is a shitty move. But, whatever makes you feel better.
If it has got to the point where you're feeling the way you are, and it's affecting to this extent, you need to self exclude from all casino's you are registered at, and take advantage of a national self exclusion scheme if your country has one in place.
I hope your decision to quit is beneficial to you, and this experience is your last negative one when it comes to gambling. But, I also think you need to start taking some accountability mate.See this
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Just had a session where I went from 25$ to 1250$ lost it all.
I got tilted because of Crazy time with obvious brake being used and not having a single bonus win with over 10x and bonuses were rare for like 1 hour.
It s the end of year and what a better time to quit with this nonsense that was introduced to me by @Slotspinner and @LetsGiveItASpin via youtube videos.
I am actualy happy that I lost today.
What I am unhappy and furious about is denial by streamers that evo uses magnets on roullete and wheels that have flapers. If you actualy use 10% of your brain u would know that wheel controlled by machine is highscholl level of enginering.
If u are willing to deny that then my respect for u is 0.
Il be open for discusion on this topic until 31.12.2021. then I will delete it with my account and unsub from every casino content u provide and possibly report it if it pops on yt from time to time.
And let me tell u this not another I will quit story because now i have same filling that i had when i had decided to stop smoking what i dont do for 4 years now.
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I have never seen a worse group of dealers. They slow roll last card and results show on screen before they flip card even when u say what they are doing they just ignore it and keep doing it.
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Sportbet.io has a free promotion running every week where you can guess outcome of different games and win free bets.
Last week I entered promotion and had 3/4 correct answers and I won 10$ free bet which was supposed to be in my account next day but it wasnt.
They removed my entry without any explanation and asked for a proff that I even entered promotion which I could not provide since I didnt take a screenshot.
This week I won a 50$ free bet with 4/4 correct answers I took a screenshot and for a big suprise whole promotion was removed from my account next day again witho no explanation.
When I entered live chat for some answers I was "talking" to some sebastian guy who was very rude and unresponsive and refused to provide any answers.
I sent them email with a notice that this will be posted on every possible gambling forum I can find after this one if they dont resolve it in 24h.
If I did anything that would breach terms of this promotion they should have removed it last week and forbid me for entering this week again.
Also I made 2 deposits this week without any problem.
As you can se bellow in images is my proff.
If there is anyone that can find a representative from their site please do.
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21 minutes ago, explorer said:
The pace of RNG "table games" is faster than live casino and the table minimums are way lower, either of which may be relevant for some. That said, I would never play one myself unless maybe it was part of a promotion.
And there s no retard next to u that stands on 12 vs 10
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Is it possible to win on those?
I have played it many times and every time ending scenario is the same, you cant win big but you can for sure lose big.
Every time I play first I need to lose some money to win it back after. Not a single time I won something first it s always lose lose lose then u win something back and if u are lucky enough maybe u will have small win.
Bj is only good if u are lucky enough to get a quick double up and thats all.
I had many scenarios where I was up a bit then every fckin time it gives u somekind of double up or split which u would win 90% of times in real bj. but not here. Most of those where it would make a difference and u would win big dont happen.
Roullete...
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On 19/08/2021 at 22:15, Navyboy24 said:
I was playing at many sites last year and to be honest I only really play roulette usually now lightning roulette as you have a better chance of the big wins with the multiplayer. I was playing at around 5 casinos last year some big, some small and never had an issues with verification AML regulations etc.
it’s in the hands of my solicitor now so thanks for the advice but he will deal with this for me as i am paying him, just wanted to give the chat a heads up.
when it takes a month to respond to an official letter from my solicitor then we know that they are not taking this seriously. They could have called my solicitor in London or given us the contact details but they hide behind emails but they can’t hide in a uk court and maybe I will publish this with a newspaper haven’t decided yet.
Just pay some russian to ddos their site
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21 hours ago, dirtystack said:
As you said before.
It s a shit promo and I am writing this while shiting and promo stinks more.
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7 minutes ago, dirtystack said:
Thankyou for stating the bloody obvious and then restating that you had previous stated the bloody obvious.
If it wasn't for you then those who wish to take part in the promo would all expect to be raking in unlimited cash at the casinos expense. Thankyou for sharing your keen insights with us.
It s a shit promo.
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5 hours ago, Martanic said:
I am 100% convinced they didn't change the games, why risk a major business.
However PlaynGo slots always needs to be checked for RTP before playing, as I am sure you know
When an addict needs a fix he will use whatever he can get his hands on.
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10 hours ago, dirtystack said:
Interesting promo but you are limiting participation by excluding runner up prizes.
As I said before in this post. It s a promo to earn money for casinos. When there is only one reward people will waste money trying to get that biggest x win.
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1 hour ago, HampusSolsidan said:
How can you be mad that they are giving something back ? If you don’t want to participate then don’t.
What are they giving back actualy?? Just 1 guy will win 10k and others will lose big sums of money trying to get that big x win.
This stuff is not giveaway it s a way to bring more profit to casinos.
Real giveaway is what Kim does with that free money on every bonus hunt and u dont have to do anything but support him with simple like share and subscribe.
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45 000 euros at stake, need advice / Read topic pls
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Posted · Edited by Jadnici
So this was on saturday and they still havent resolved this if something was wrong wouldnt they see it by now. Will they go through every single hand that I played (1200+ hands) and how do they prove every hand was glitched?