MatthewJ Posted 28 March, 2021 Share Posted 28 March, 2021 Hello, i am mostly a lurker and i watch CG streamers from time to time. With the recent outbreak of absurd play money streamers, how can we be sure that the CG streamers in itself are legitimate as well? I am just genuinely curious and I hope i will get sensible, persuasive answers instead of just CG forum members vouching for their legitimacy based on their own words. For starters, we are all saying that certain streamers are fake either because of the amount they are staking or they have admitted it themselves or they have cut a deal for a percentage of winnings. If i am not mistaken, Kim has said that some are able to withdraw but they won't be able to withdraw it from their Skrill to bank acc. So, how are we sure that the CG streamers do not fall under this category as well? If i remember correctly Kim and Slotspinner both withdraws to Skrill and not Bank or Visa/MC. So, anyone could show their withdrawals on their Royal Panda, LeoVegas, Wheelz and the money will be sent to their Skrill but can they even withdraw all(100%) of it to their bank? Because right now it looks like it just gets recycled and redeposited into the same selected casinos and it becomes an endless cycle of depositing and withdrawing with skrill Some people may vouch for them because they have won their giveaways like Kim's bonus hunt, Slotspinner's quad guessing or their Discord giveaways but they should know that the amount they receive from being affiliates with the mentioned casinos are not a paltry sum so it's definitely viable to be giving those amounts per week/month. The amounts can also be adjustable if their affiliate $ decrease because it cant be consistent every month. Kim's bonus hunt literally went from 500 to 250 to 100 now (yes the prize is higher if the result is good but for long viewers you can tell that he probably profits twice in 15 bonus hunts and with the base 100 + rollover 100, he will actually pay less compared to before). The fake money streamers are able to host legitimately giveaways as well because they earn affiliate money from their followings. To sum this passage, giveaways are legitimate sure but what about the stream itself? We can't really judge by stakes because if anyone wants to put up a good show without raising suspicions, they can set a limit and stake what seems 'real' (5-10 eur slot spins with 2k-10k deposits). Link to comment
NeWbZs Posted 28 March, 2021 Share Posted 28 March, 2021 Kim has shown his own bank account on stream one time where there where deposits and withdrawals. Of course there are so many ways to fake all of that but I think many people see streamers as friends and the social pressure would be enormous on the streamers if they are lying. That in itself is not 100% proof but with all the proof given i am 99.99% sure. Link to comment
LetsGiveItASpin Posted 28 March, 2021 Share Posted 28 March, 2021 Hey mate, It's difficult to proove unless you have someone show their bank account and match it up with the transactions from the Skrill account. I think it's important for transparency and should someone win very big I think it's good to show that you actually get the money. I know for a fact some streamers (non CG) are struggling extremely much financially, but everytime they win the money goes back into the stream again, usually an "insane" bonus hunt. They say that they invest it in "content" but if people know how much they were struggling, none would believe that for a second. With regards to the giveaways they've been going up, last year I gave away around €30,000 and and additional €25,000 to charity. If you only check the bonus hunt it's pretty much the same but with a jackpot system instead as I wan't to reward those who're actually rooting for us it win. Other than that there's a lot of flash giveaways that has been added as that rewards the regular viewers Needless to say the increase in giveaways this and last year obviously correlates with me having the first profit year from the actual gambling and hence wanting to give more back to the community. Link to comment
Nüßchen Posted 28 March, 2021 Share Posted 28 March, 2021 One point to add I guess ... People who follow Kim and slotspinner know how they started...especially slotspinner... I remember he lived with Reggie together and does not used high bets... It was normal bets...no high roll or bankroll of 10.000euro... He started really small and over the years he was going higher and was able to play higher bets and more bankroll to use. It was not a progress of some month like other streamer starts streaming with 50euro spins. He build it up over years. I think he is trustworthy Link to comment
Kosmankasa Posted 28 March, 2021 Share Posted 28 March, 2021 39 minutes ago, Nüßchen said: One point to add I guess ... People who follow Kim and slotspinner know how they started...especially slotspinner... I remember he lived with Reggie together and does not used high bets... It was normal bets...no high roll or bankroll of 10.000euro... He started really small and over the years he was going higher and was able to play higher bets and more bankroll to use. It was not a progress of some month like other streamer starts streaming with 50euro spins. He build it up over years. I think he is trustworthy What you say tells me nothing. Slot spinner just two years ago played with € 0.60 bet, how is it possible that he plays with € 10 or 20 per spin now. Did he get rich by playing slot machines, of course not. Most of what we see is fake. Had it been so easy to get rich by playing slots, I would have been a multimillionaire now Link to comment
BoudewijnB Posted 28 March, 2021 Share Posted 28 March, 2021 9 hours ago, Kosmankasa said: What you say tells me nothing. Slot spinner just two years ago played with € 0.60 bet, how is it possible that he plays with € 10 or 20 per spin now. Did he get rich by playing slot machines, of course not. Most of what we see is fake. Had it been so easy to get rich by playing slots, I would have been a multimillionaire now I completely see where you are coming from but many underestimate the power of affiliate marketing. For instance, streamers get a % of revenue that a player generates the casino. So imagine a 40% share and having a high roller gambling under your name. That’s passive income. The bigger you get the more referrals. The more referrals, the higher the bets you can do. Link to comment
siggy Posted 28 March, 2021 Share Posted 28 March, 2021 10 hours ago, Kosmankasa said: What you say tells me nothing. Slot spinner just two years ago played with € 0.60 bet, how is it possible that he plays with € 10 or 20 per spin now. Did he get rich by playing slot machines, of course not. Most of what we see is fake. Had it been so easy to get rich by playing slots, I would have been a multimillionaire now I suggest you go watch Slotspinners stream, He plays on average €5 per spin, The times he or Desi play higher (€10) is when they've had a big win on LeoVeags and need to wager the 100x bonus as they don't have a max bet on that bonus, all other bonuses they get have a max €5 bet i believe, He rarely plays raw except when he's ending the stream and may do a few spins on Fruit Mania. Link to comment
Slotspinner Posted 29 March, 2021 Share Posted 29 March, 2021 On 28/03/2021 at 14:10, Kosmankasa said: What you say tells me nothing. Slot spinner just two years ago played with € 0.60 bet, how is it possible that he plays with € 10 or 20 per spin now. Did he get rich by playing slot machines, of course not. Most of what we see is fake. Had it been so easy to get rich by playing slots, I would have been a multimillionaire now i have bet 0.60€ in 2016. Also i have shown withdrawals from neteller to my Revolut, and my betsizes went up gradually over years of streaming and like siggy pointed out, usually we play 5 euro spins or 2-3€ bonus buys. The 10-20€ spins you refer to are rare and we usually just do that after massive wins or big wagering on bonuses that allow us those betsizes Link to comment
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