Evolution with the most OBVIOUS SCAM!

[Asle Martinsen]

I like laughing at a good conspiracy theory as much as anyone else, but this is actually insane!

During this streak (where I played every single round), 4 bets were rejected for all players: The first one was the Crazy Time, then the 1, then the Pachinko, then the Coin Flip.

Of course, when speaking to Evolution support, they're not gonna do a thing about it. 

43 game rounds, 4 bonuses, 3 of them were 'bets rejected'. The CT hit 100x (Blue), the Pachinko was 7x, Coin Flip was 3x. 

This looks suspect as hell. 

Honestly I have never seen anything like this. This is too much to be a coincidence in my opinion. 

[RJ-]

From my understanding, Bets Rejected is caused by your casino and not Evolution Gaming, I have never experienced any issues with rejected myself with over 1000+ Spins on CT with 50 Euro bets. Unfortunate nonetheless..

[Asle Martinsen]

Of course I know it's not a scam, I just think this looks way too suspect, and I think it's absolutely shitty by Evolution to play through the rounds knowing full well that the players are raging like mad, and then have the hosts go around laughing and making jokes. Evolution has the info on all the bets that were voided, and they could easily fix this by paying out what they should have.

Probability says 1 in 9 rounds should be a bonus, and we got 4 in 43 spins, but they took 3 of the 4 away from us, leaving us with a 3x pachinko in 43 spins. This is just an incredible coincidence and Evolution has the funds to make this right. 

[explorer]

Evolution doesn't have anything to gain from player bets getting rejected. If there are too many technical glitches, or if players never win, they'll stop playing, and Evolution will earn less from the casinos. Also, if all bets from all casinos are getting rejected, it really does not matter what comes up on the wheel, as nobody is winning or losing anything, while Evolution still has to pay to operate the game. What it sounds more like are technical glitches on their end that lasted a few turns.

But I do agree live support is useless.

[Asle Martinsen]

2 minutes ago, RJ- said:

From my understanding, Bets Rejected is caused by your casino and not Evolution Gaming, I have never experienced any issues with rejected myself with over 1000+ Spins on CT with 50 Euro bets. Unfortunate nonetheless..

Literally 0 winners across all casinos during all 4 of these game rounds, so this had nothing to do with my casino, and everything to do with Evolution. 

15 days ago I had a game round that charged me 4 times what I bet, also on Crazy Time. Today they replied to my casino that it was a visual bug and that it was my fault, not theirs. This despite me playing at 10-20 euro stakes for hours, and the game round in question charged me 83.20. I provided visual proof too, as the chips said 20.80 euros, but total bet said 83.20. 

I'm definitely staying away from Crazy Time and everything else Evolution related in the future. 

[RJ-]

You are right, 0 winners in 4 spins with 3 bonuses, that is interesting... Sorry I doubted you, that's fishy....

[Asle Martinsen]

3 minutes ago, RJ- said:

You are right, 0 winners in 4 spins with 3 bonuses, that is interesting... Sorry I doubted you, that's fishy....

Where do you get that history view?

[explorer]

Tracksino has a history of Evolution wheel games.

[Asle Martinsen]

Just now, explorer said:

Tracksino has a history of Evolution wheel games.

Found it. Cheers

[mallerdt]

Something has to pay for these huge 5000-10000x rounds. It's not like this hasn't happened in the past, whether it was in Monopoly, Dream Catcher or Crazy Time. It's rigged as fuck that's why I never play it, it's all predetermined.

[explorer]

18 minutes ago, mallerdt said:

Something has to pay for these huge 5000-10000x rounds. It's not like this hasn't happened in the past, whether it was in Monopoly, Dream Catcher or Crazy Time. It's rigged as fuck that's why I never play it, it's all predetermined.

Nothing gets paid for when bets get rejected. It's bad bonuses like 4x Coin Flip and 7x Pachinko that pay for the rare 1000x+ rounds.

[Asle Martinsen]

@Blanco @LetsGiveItASpin Here, read the post

[Ree]

Looks very suspicious if everyone's bets were rejected for that spin as well. Remember Crazy Time is a RNG game so the result is picked the second the bets are closed (wheel is just for show) - bets are often rejected well after bets close too. Had it happen to me many times.

A quick google shows up some other useful trackers for Crazy Time and that other tilting Monopoly game

https://casinoquest.co.uk/crazy-time-tracker

https://casinoquest.co.uk/monopoly-live-tracker

Funny how so many BIG wins happen during the early hours of the morning 😏

I'm sure there is nothing untoward going on, but can we really trust Evolution?

 

[balfour]

14 hours ago, Ree said:

Looks very suspicious if everyone's bets were rejected for that spin as well. Remember Crazy Time is a RNG game so the result is picked the second the bets are closed (wheel is just for show) - bets are often rejected well after bets close too. Had it happen to me many times.

A quick google shows up some other useful trackers for Crazy Time and that other tilting Monopoly game

https://casinoquest.co.uk/crazy-time-tracker

https://casinoquest.co.uk/monopoly-live-tracker

Funny how so many BIG wins happen during the early hours of the morning 😏

I'm sure there is nothing untoward going on, but can we really trust Evolution?

 

Well, the Crazy Time Bonus Wheel is RNG, but the wheel of the basic game is a real one. So Evolution does not know what the next hit will be, unless the wheel is manipulated or the have some sort of advanced software that calculates the strenght of the spin and predicts where it will land. I doubt both, so I think its just a technical problem that unfortunately happened when bonuses came in...

[kiwi slotz]

On 14/10/2020 at 05:24, Asle Martinsen said:

Of course I know it's not a scam, I just think this looks way too suspect, and I think it's absolutely shitty by Evolution to play through the rounds knowing full well that the players are raging like mad, and then have the hosts go around laughing and making jokes. Evolution has the info on all the bets that were voided, and they could easily fix this by paying out what they should have.

Probability says 1 in 9 rounds should be a bonus, and we got 4 in 43 spins, but they took 3 of the 4 away from us, leaving us with a 3x pachinko in 43 spins. This is just an incredible coincidence and Evolution has the funds to make this right. 

i had a similar experience when playing degenerate bets on thier roulette game

i was betting 1k on most bets on red/black.

 i lost 3-4 in a row then decided to max it on red with a 4k bet as i had been chasing red since the start

my bet was rejected and of course it was RED i dropped back to 1k for the next 2 bets and still lost and went back to the 4k max again that was also rejected.

both times i would have won the max bets.!

 

 

im thinking their black jack is skepty as hell too

sometimes i wonder if bots are planted only because most times when i highroll it sometimes theres like 2 players and it seems that whenever i place that mega bet more players seem to suddenly appear (which may be a coincidence) but then i get dealt a low card (which i accept happens)

and to no surprise the dealer always ends up with 20

 

today i was playing 3 boxes and on 2 of the occasions in the the 4 deals i played i had 19/20 and a black jack (great right?)

but both times the dealer had 21 and the other 2 they had 20 (am i unlucky? like really? lolol

 

starting to think it may be better to stick to land casinos. i do not mind losing provided i am losing fairly.

my biggest hate from so called live casino action is roulette and how you can not always see the wheel as it spins and lands or if you get timed out. dat shit really pmo! lol

 

[Julian035]

Sick

[niddLer]

I'm guessing its a bug since not a single person got their bets in.

I'm pretty sure it was just a coincidence that it hit bonus.

Evolution wouldn't reject bets just cause of a 100x 

[Asle Martinsen]

2 minutes ago, niddLer said:

I'm guessing its a bug since not a single person got their bets in.

I'm pretty sure it was just a coincidence that it hit bonus.

Evolution wouldn't reject bets just cause of a 100x 

Yeah, it is a bug for sure. But we gamblers like blaming others whenever we can when things don't work out for us  

Anyway, it was just such a huge coincidence, I have never seen chat go that crazy and get that angry at Evolution before. 2500ish players where most of them were contacting Evolution live support at the same time lol. 

[explorer]

3 hours ago, Asle Martinsen said:

Yeah, it is a bug for sure. But we gamblers like blaming others whenever we can when things don't work out for us  

Anyway, it was just such a huge coincidence, I have never seen chat go that crazy and get that angry at Evolution before. 2500ish players where most of them were contacting Evolution live support at the same time lol. 

Tilt in live games is real, lol. All sorts of things can set me off. 

[TheCasinoGuy]

Trust me it's not a bug, it could have been someone in the background that messed up something, but this only proves that they control everything.

If you think what happened to you is bad, remember the 9600x on monopoly? I, along with many other players were kicked out just before landing the multiplayer and then the 4 rolls, which was gonna pay me €960,000, knowing that I was playing for 45 mins without any connection problems or errors.

[Asle Martinsen]

6 hours ago, TheCasinoGuy said:

Trust me it's not a bug, it could have been someone in the background that messed up something, but this only proves that they control everything.

If you think what happened to you is bad, remember the 9600x on monopoly? I, along with many other players were kicked out just before landing the multiplayer and then the 4 rolls, which was gonna pay me €960,000, knowing that I was playing for 45 mins without any connection problems or errors.

You were playing Monopoly with one of your bets being 100 euros on 4 rolls for 45 minutes straight? Wish I could afford that. 

If that's true though, it does sound fishy and if I experienced that I'd probably feel the same as you about it. 

[780xFTW]

7 hours ago, TheCasinoGuy said:

Trust me it's not a bug, it could have been someone in the background that messed up something, but this only proves that they control everything.

If you think what happened to you is bad, remember the 9600x on monopoly? I, along with many other players were kicked out just before landing the multiplayer and then the 4 rolls, which was gonna pay me €960,000, knowing that I was playing for 45 mins without any connection problems or errors.

if u were playing 100€ bets (on 4 rolls alone) u should know that the max win on 4 rolls is 500k... nice story anyway^^

[Asle Martinsen]

3 hours ago, 780xFTW said:

if u were playing 100€ bets (on 4 rolls alone) u should know that the max win on 4 rolls is 500k... nice story anyway^^

It would require a 10x chance followed by 4 rolls and landing on Mayfair with a hotel there to get the max win, so I don't think it's that unlikely to be fair. I mean, people make different amounts of money, and maybe he had a 10k win on slots earlier in the day. Maybe he only bets on rolls as well, who knows. It's quite possible, but it seems farfetched for someone in my position. But people like LetsGiveItASpin could afford to do stuff like this, so it's quite possible this guy could too. Although the majority couldn't afford it  

[explorer]

14 minutes ago, Asle Martinsen said:

It would require a 10x chance followed by 4 rolls and landing on Mayfair with a hotel there to get the max win, so I don't think it's that unlikely to be fair. I mean, people make different amounts of money, and maybe he had a 10k win on slots earlier in the day. Maybe he only bets on rolls as well, who knows. It's quite possible, but it seems farfetched for someone in my position. But people like LetsGiveItASpin could afford to do stuff like this, so it's quite possible this guy could too. Although the majority couldn't afford it  

Wins are capped at €500k.

[Asle Martinsen]

13 minutes ago, explorer said:

Wins are capped at €500k.

I know, and that's what I'm saying. If you play for 100 euros, you need to hit Mayfair at 5000x in order to win 500k.